Posted on 04/20/2020 10:11:45 AM PDT by rintintin
South Dakota and 8 other red states had very little to no lockdowns at all.
Every single one if them is doing infinitely better than deep blue New York and New Jersey.
They don't need to end lockdowns cause they never had it in the first place. And their small businesses and their economies are chugging along nicely thank you very much.
Ha ha. That would be great.
Actually his story fits two models, the latter which I’ve already referred to:
- iron man athletes have a very dark history of heart troubles and heart-related issues and death at a young age, and
- he toughed it out until he thought he could just stop by the hospital for fluids, when he was alraedy to the point of being intubated within a day.
But I think that that is the issue with test. Ideally, you lock the person away until the test result is known.
Also, unless everyone is tested this way, it prevents a tight control and no assumptions can be made.
“Also, unless everyone is tested this way, it prevents a tight control and no assumptions can be made.”
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Even if it is possible to test everyone - at a million people a day, it would still take almost a year to do it.
The best we can hope for is to work towards that goal while dealing with getting back to as close as normal in real life as possible.
Actually his story fits two models, the latter which I’ve already referred to:
- iron man athletes have a very dark history of heart troubles and heart-related issues and death at a young age, and
- he toughed it out until he thought he could just stop by the hospital for fluids, when he was alraedy to the point of being intubated within a day.
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With the first point - there is no indiction that was the case here, even if it wee a true overall claim.
On the second point, very few people go to a doctor unless they’re feeling pretty bad. It’s pretty common, except for hypochondriacs, to put off going to see one.
It is true and they probably didn’t get a good look at him until he had several disordered organs.
But I didn’t say that people don’t put off going to the doctor. What I said is that in this case it can be deadly because it is hard to save people if the virus has advanced too far before treatment.
You seem to be going through a lot of mental gymnastics to avoid realizing that not only does a virus not care if it latches onto the young and healthy, but that it can also do quite a number on them.
That’s a common incorrect belief some have,but it is incorrect. I think it provides some from of comfort for many to believe the virus is only interested in 90 year olds who are at death’s door to begin with. But sh-t happens to everyone, that’s just the nature of life.
You seem to be the one attempting the gymnastics here. The odds of it being deadly and devastating are very much greater for the elderly than those both young and healthy. Not that out of millions of infections there won’t be some devastating in that population as well, but that’s on a whole different scale of probability And again, prophylactic and/or early treatment make a difference in that too.
I know about all that. I guess you don’t get subtle sarcasm, or perhaps look for “gotchas” as an annoying hobby. So let me rephrase, for anyone stupid enough to take my sentence literally:
“Why did they move the goalposts? Who’s dumb enough to fall for it?”
(Besides the msm, politicians looking to justify their awful decision, and certain Freeper Fauci Fluffers, that is?)
FAUCI: “The system — the system does not — is not really geared to what we need right now, what you are asking for. That is a failing.”
WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: “A failing, yes.”
FAUCI: “It is a failing, let's admit it.”
FAUCI: “The fact is the way the system was set up is that the public health component that Doctor — that Doctor Redfield was talking about, was a system where you put it out there in the public and a physician ask for it and you get it. The idea of anybody getting it easily the way people in other countries are doing it, we are not set up for that. Do I think we should be? Yes, but we are not.”
“I guess you don’t get subtle sarcasm”
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I get it just fine, but when you have people saying the same thing in all seriousness you need a program to tell them apart.
“The odds of it being deadly and devastating are very much greater for the elderly than those both young and healthy.”
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If you’re one of the young and healthy who is ravaged by it, statistics and odds are meaningless.
In the state this particular guy is from ages 1-44 years constitute 35 percent of the confirmed cases. A big demographic chunk.
Shutting down the country does, unfortunately, have to based on stats—or we are captive and lost forever.
And the number of cases of course does not translate to the share of death and devastation.
“Shutting down the country does, unfortunately, have to based on stats—or we are captive and lost forever.”
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Or even regions within a state. NYC and most of NY state are two different stories. The shut down was easy, the opening up is gonna be a bit trickier and take more time.
I don’t disagree with you in post 81. I think a lot of the wars on Free Republic these days are because people in states with a lot of cases are arguing with people in states that don’t have too many cases. And I agree that they’re completely different issues and the states with few cases should have been handled completely differently.
But we can’t wait until every last risk of every last person to possibly catch it has disappeared, unfortunately.
“But we can’t wait until every last risk of every last person to possibly catch it has disappeared, unfortunately.”
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Can’t be done, at any rate, anyway - at least in the forseeable future. Without a vaccine, it’s gonna be around for a long time. Maybe non-stop, maybe it’ll take a break, nobody knows.
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