Navy seems pretty weak. Guess not seeing any major action since WW2 does that
This story if total BS. As a senior enlisted Navy retiree I can tell you that NO SECNAV would get on the general announcing system of a U.S. Navy Ship and use profanity when addressing 5,000 men and women. Do you people believe that SECNAV flew all the way to Guam just to explain his actions in firing that idiot CO? He is neither obligated nor does he owe those sailors ( and i use that term loosely) an explanation. What those sailors should be doing is getting their ass in uniform, then STFU and get back to doing their jobs.
FYI there are no “gangplanks” in the Navy anymore. That CO was not walking the gangplank. He was walking off the ship on the forward BROW.
If SECNAV did so what this story describes, then he would be next to walk the so called plank.
Telling it like it is. Not the limp Mabus, the Secy of the Queens Navy of Obama.
He did not follow the rules but saved his crew.
I bet the morale on that ship is rock bottom right now. Captain Crozier challenged the swamp and the swamp is unforgiving, even in victory.
If the Navy Secretary is so concerned about the chain of command, why isn’t he letting uniformed officers over Captain Crozier handle this? He’s a jerk not worthy of his position, either too naive or stupid to be there at the Pentagon. I would almost bet my mortgage that this outburst comes back to bite the SecNav in the butt.
Why is it that no one seems to be asking the former captain how the heck his crew became infected?
Was liberty granted at a port with known cases? If so, the captain should have had to walk the plank!
I would be very interested in how the virus got on board.
Listen up fucktards! All you people who think Sec Nav was inappropriate. I am a retired Navy Chief Corpsman who at one time was the Leading Chief of the world’s Largest Combat Ship Medical Dept. aboard an LHD Amphibious Assault Ship. 1/4 bigger than a Nimitz class carrier Med Dept. Fully Loaded, we had 3500 Marines & Sailors on a ship the size of a WWII Essex Class Carrier. If you think for 1 micro sec that I could not devise a safe and workable plan to isolate 150, 200, 300, 400, 500 or more people, keep them treated, fed, & safe, and tested the rest of the crew in a scenario like this, and still keep that ship operational until it reached a safe port of call, then I never should have been given Chief’s Anchor’s to wear. This Capt, either by stupidity or design, FUCKED UP BIG TIME!! He needs to be Court Marshaled immediately! And any member of that crew that can’t handle it needs to be replaced NOW! YES THEY CAN BE REPLACED! ALL OF THEM! It just takes the backbone to do so. I doubt the entire crew liked this guy however, and there are many in the crowd who still have balls. The Sec Nav was right on the MARK!! You don’t EVER ADVERTISE to the World your state of readiness while underway, PERIOD!! This is THE UNITED STATES NAVY!! And FUCK EVERYONE OF YOU LITTLE MONKEY FUCKERS WHO CAN”T HANDLE STRAIGHT TALK< GO CRY ME A RIVER YOU BED WETTING SHITS!!
I think he was sending a message to the senior officers of the Navy as well as the crew.
Reminds one of the “crew support” on the HMS Bounty of the exec..Fletcher Christian, wanting to stay in Tahiti and screw pagan Polynesian chickees and drink their homebrew naked on the beach vs. his CO. A mutiny, which was brought to trial as a result of the amazing nautical skills of Captain Bligh, surviving,and several of the mutineers hanged.
All that is left of those sorry bastards-— is on Pitcairn, Is. descendants of Christian, where they left the hulk of the Bounty burning to the waterline.
Wondering what would the cheering millennial sailors reaction be— to an exposed full-on attack while docked from an electric chi-com suicidal sub (which assuredly would be destroyed in rapid fashion by their fellow Strike Group escort, still around)? Kind of what Modly’s words (if true, from yet another leak... by someone on the Roosevelt) were. Would they cheer a CO that did that, over a panic of his own generation. This is what happens in the obamaumao derived continuation of the shite visited on our Navy particularly, from Patsy Schroeder and Tail hook (on the Air Wing side), and sex integration at USNA and shipboard. Bearing no discipline— mimicking the civilian world-— a cruise ship with nuclear weapons—riiight!
Something else: Crozier was removed from command by his immediate superior after chain of command conference calls (not the idiocy the idiot press reports) RDML Stuart Baker, the Commander of the Strike Group 9— the Strike Group consisting of the Roosevelt,the Air Wing assigned to Roosevelt and Air Wing Commander, USS Bunker Hill,USS Cape St. George, and units from Desron 23 (Destroyer Squadron 23). Coincidentally, Chief of Staff to RDML Baker, is 4 striper full Captain Steve Budde (aboard the carrier, and twice former Capt. of two CGs, Guided missile cruiser, including USS Cape St. George). The Roosevelt being the Flagship of Strike Group 9.
The CNO’s ordered report of all comms, said “letter” etc.- is due today. NIS and DIA have been on this.
A good read of the comments to this USNI article is worth the time vs. stupid crap from SanFran Nan’s pals at the Chronicle:
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Modly's statement of April 2, 2020
The CO told my Chief of Staff that he was receiving those resources, and was fully aware of the Navy’s response, only asking that the he wished the crew could be evacuated faster. My Chief of Staff ensured that the CO knew that he had an open line to me to use at any time.
And how would they have handled that invitation to short circuit the chain of command, had Capt. Crozier availed himself of it? The issue here largely appears to be public embarrassment rather than chain of command.
https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/Exclusive-Captain-of-aircraft-carrier-with-15167883.php
At the time, Modly expressed confidence that they identified all the sailors who had been in contact with the trio of infected sailors and they had been quarantined. ...
That was pure public relations bullcrap. Did the trio eat? The mess deck would have been contaminated. Everybody used the mess deck. How did they isolate sailors infected with an airborne illness aboard a ventilated ship? Why did the infection multiply by 50x in a few days? Modly's initial statement was not credible. Obviously, it was afactual. Also, there is no chance whatsoever that Captain Crozier made a port call in Vietnam without RADM Baker and higher ups approving it.
Modly tried to sweep an uncontrollable airborne contamination under the rug.
Crozier's letter, sent as an email, or attachment to an email, appears to be part of what was an official naval letter, or draft of such, with the heading removed, and the prefacing BLUF paragraph (Bottom Line Up Front) added before numbered paragraph 1. I suspect that it was previously an official letter From: Commanding Officer, USS Theodore Roosevelt; To: someone senior to RADM Baker; Via: Commander, Carrier Strike Group 9 (RADM Baker). Such a letter would go from Captain Crozier to RADM Baker for his Endorsement, to be forwarded up the chain of command. If this is what happened, the letter appears to have stopped at RADM Baker, and when the Navy proclaims that RADM Baker had not previously seen the letter, they misleadingly refer to the email version only.
The ship was in port dockside at Guam since March 27. This incident happpened in port, not at sea. Reportedly, more than a thousand sailors went off the ship, but there was a problem finding lodging for the rest. The ship's crew amounts to about 3,200. The attached air wing amounts to about 2,500. The Admiral's staff might number about a few hundred. The Navy announced a goal to get 2,700 sailors off the ship by Friday, but it is Monday and they are behind schedule. Arithmetic suggest who was getting off.
Press releases about sailors being moved off the ship may not have included sailors of the ship's crew, other than those tested as positive. The rest may have been embarked admiral's staff and aviation personnel. If that is what happened, the cheering crew, who gave Captain Crozier a hero's sendoff, would have known who had left and who had been left behind.
There is a very real possibility that Captain Crozier addressed an official letter up the chain of command, and had it blocked, before he went around RADM Baker, he who is almost a non-person in this event. I have not seen a word from the senior officer who was aboard the ship.
A measure of how serious the contamination was may be seen by how long it takes the Navy to get that carrier back out to sea. It has been docked since March 27.
On March 5, 2020— the USS Theodore Roosevelt (CVN-71) Nuclear powered aircraft carrier and the USS Bunker Hill (CG-52) gas turbine powered guided missile cruiser, made an official port call at Da Nang Port, Vietnam. This was a diplomatic port visit commemorating 25 years of U.S. -Vietnam diplomatic relations.
The United States delegation was led by Adm. John C. Aquilino, Commander, U.S. Pacific Fleet, U.S. Ambassador to Vietnam Daniel Kritenbrink, Rear Adm. Stu Baker, commander, Carrier Strike Group (CSG) 9, U.S. Consul General in Ho Chi Minh City Marie Damour, and other officials from CSG 9 and the U.S. Mission in Vietnam. Incidentally, the Communist Chinese are not happy about this— just as they are not happy about N.Korea. Vietnam’s ancient enemy is China, even as Vietnam is a communist state. China lost the proxy war to Soviet Russia over Vietnam— and the Soviets disintegrated. Note that the port call was NOT in Haiphong nor in Saigon (Ho chi Minh City)— lotta politics on that.
The “other officials from CSG 9” would have included the Chief of Staff to RADM Baker: CAPT Chris J. Budde (formerly CO of the USS Gary and the USS Port Royal) possibly Command Master Chief of Strike Group 9- CMC Pedro Santos, and the CO of the Roosevelt, Captain Brett Crozier and possibly the Air Wing Commander CSG 9.
The Chain of Command there was COMPACFLT, to Commander CSG 9, to CO of the USS Roosevelt. All at Da Nang port. How many allowed ashore of the crew? Cannot know. ANd how many from the Bunker Hill. Were the Chi-coms there in any capacity. The Ambassador would know, or the spooks.
He resigned. Why? He was doing his job.
The Chicoms and Russians are having a good laugh.