Posted on 03/28/2020 10:38:47 AM PDT by NobleFree
You sound like an engineer.
i’m an engineer, but a started out as a wanna be poet.
So I’ll draw you a metaphor, to show you how i think about this problem. if it makes no sense to you, no worries. just ignore it.
A well-meaning doctor decides to treat a fast spreading tumor with what would normally be deadly poison by inserting a catheter into the tumor. It’s deep in the body. He threads the catheter carefully through the patient’s body. There’s a pump to force the poison into the catheter. The poison is deadly in large dose, so the pump starts and stops to rate the flow of the poison.
But some hater of the patient has sabotaged the catheter. It has small leaks along the way. The poison puddles all along the path to the tumor. It leaks out when the pump is on and stops when the pump is off. The poison is mixed in small amounts at the site of each leak. Then the pump is turned back on.
The tumor gets fresh cells to feed it from the leaks in the catheter. It also sucks up some poison with them, but the poison is now contaminated with the patient’s healthy cells and blood, and so feeds the tumor instead of killing it. The poison spreads slowly throughout the healthy body, weakening it. With fresh nutrient, the tumor grows faster, continuing to spread throughout the body, finally killing it.
I hired H1-B workers for 30 years. For the past 20 years I was often paying them more than local workers. The department of labor assigned the wage. We needed to petition the role to get the H1-B worker accepted for a visa. That often included a masters degree. The better we made them look, the more we would be forced to pay them. The Department of Labor then had a chart and assigned each worker a place. And we were forced to adjust their salary, always up.
Now we were hiring programmers. And in fact we hired extremely good programmers. It was rare to find an American that could pass our test. More than three quarters of our programming staff were foreign born. And at the time of my departure 5 years ago, 80% of those were making over $100,000. And some were making over $150,000. I assume they are probably making $50,000 more than that now.
That being said, we were forced by our parent company to hire an outsourcing firm for testers. I did not want them, but I was overruled. They came in very cheaply. We paid around $40 per hour for them. And they could be fired at our whim. We did hire some of them permanently, but those were extremely good. I hated this practice as it was like watching a sweatshop. Many of these people were from Pakistan. They are family members of others who already had green cards or H1-Bs. I don’t know how they were able to work in the US until we sponsored the ones we did hire.
Millions unemployed, but Trump can’t help but to bring in more foreigners.
There are Indian and Pakistani outsourcing companies that hire bulk from their own country and send them here. Or they hire people here who are family members of H1-B and green card holders. I think these companies should be stopped. They are thoroughly unAmerican. But most American companies who hold H1-B hire from the US. Its too hard to hire someone aboard and bring them here.
Lots of people will be looking for jobs and Trump does this. He needs to get control of his subordinates.
Hope someone raises this at today’s presser.
Yeah he needs to shut this crap down.
Gonna lose lots of support.
Sadly, there are a lot of technical jobs that it’s hard to find adequate U.S. candidates to fill.
The majority of slots for graduate degrees are taken by foreign born students. These students need Visas to stay here, or we send them back to their country with the education we give them.
Cancel this crap. What we do not need is more H1b’s. In fact we need a dramatic reduction in H1b cheap labor.
I would much rather raise the retirement age and provide other incentives for more Americans to work than to keep bringing in cheap foreign labor. To the extent that we allow foreign workers in, they need to be MORE EXPENSIVE for companies to employ than it would cost to employ Americans for the same jobs. That way they’ll only hire real superstars from abroad and it will not undercut the wages of Americans which it currently does.
I can tell you explicitly that is not the case at major banks. I know this because the Indians themselves have told me they do not get paid as much as Americans. Given the big office buildings for these major banks are absolutely stuffed full of Indians....AT LEAST 25% of the workforce....I can easily believe it.
No, its not just IT. Yes, they could easily find Americans to do those jobs. They just want cheap labor.
One of the reasons they’re hard to fill is because Americans don’t go into them as much because wages are pushed down by cheap H1b’s. They can afford to work for cheaper than Americans can because they didn’t get saddled with ridiculously expensive college educations....expenses driven up when colleges got fat and happy on guaranteed government student loans such that they added all kinds of highly paid administrators for “diversity” and other such BS.
Does anybody wonder why so many younger people in the US support Bernie and the Socialists? They’re getting screwed on education costs, screwed in the job market and the flood of foreigners drives up house prices so they can’t get on the first rung of the property ladder either.
“there are a lot of technical jobs that it’s hard to find adequate U.S. candidates to fill.”
I find that hard to believe, since there are 3.5 million under- or unemployed American STEM degree holders.
That's bunk. What you're really saying is that it's hard to find U.S. candidates to fill at rock bottom wages.
If you pay what the market demands then there will be adequate American workers to do the job. H1B visas exist solely so employers can depress market wages. We're a nation of 330 million people with the best university system in the world. We have well educated Americans available for any job if the employer is paying wages the market demands.
That's true, but they are very, very few and far between. The vast majority are little better than script readers and googlers. They have no loyalty to an organization, and will jump ship for a nickel pay increase. Also, in my experience, it is obvious that any qualifications they have listed on their CV are entirely imaginary.
Really? That's all you have to say about the article? If it's true, it's true, and it's a very bad thing. I couldn't care less what the source is, if they are accurately reporting what is going on. Trump is not an emperor or a god. He makes mistakes. Like this.
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