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Japan's Virus Success has Puzzled the Word. It it's Luck Running Out? (Times hopes for more deaths in Japan)
NY Times ^ | March 26, 2020 | By Motoko Rich and Hisako Ueno

Posted on 03/26/2020 9:48:04 PM PDT by jerod

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To: Lopeover

Sounds very effective with “no adverse reactions”. Japan has been stockpiling it for the purpose of combating flu epidemics since 2014. That’s what the NYT should have reported.


21 posted on 03/26/2020 10:35:17 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: FormerFRLurker

Nope. We done way to much of this panic mongering “what if we open too early”

We need a serious discussion of what happens if we open too late. Delaying things like evictions or government utility payments does nothing to help the economy survive. It just piles up a bunch of delayed debt that will have to be addressed, It merely spread the pain out, it does not cure it.

Your are so wrong it hurts. Our economy has not seen a hit like this since the 1930s. Not even 09-11 or 2008 did as much damage as this is doing right now. The other thing you really need to start thinking is the US is the engine of the World economy. It not just us that is in the balance

You cannot live in perfect safety ever. You MUST stop fantasizing that there is some sort of shut down that will keep you safe forever. There is not.

Flu kills more people every year, yet none of you go into hysteric panic over it. People need to start taking some personal responsibility and end to this foolish mindset that if just make everyone hide under their for 3 months everything will go back to normal. It will not. The “fix” being purposed here is going to be far worse then the problem.,

We need to stop with the panic mongering and start doing some serious cost data analysis of the effect of the solutions being purposed. We need to stop with this infantile notion that we need to “destroy the economy to save lives”. No we don’t.


22 posted on 03/26/2020 10:37:46 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (They would have abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: Lopeover
Here are a couple of copyright-free information sources:

https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/Favipiravir#section=Information-Sources

https://ncit.nci.nih.gov/ncitbrowser/ConceptReport.jsp?dictionary=NCI_Thesaurus&ns=NCI_Thesaurus&code=C81605

Looks like a new class of virus suppressants may be around the corner.

23 posted on 03/26/2020 10:38:04 PM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: FormerFRLurker

Did you have that worry when H1N1 spiked in November and December and then if thousands were dying


24 posted on 03/26/2020 10:38:29 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: jmacusa

Thank you. Good luck. May God bless you and your family in this time of trial.


25 posted on 03/26/2020 10:39:03 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (They would have abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: MNJohnnie

Thank you. You summed up exactly how I feel about it.

I’ve managed to avoid getting into any pissing contests here over the issue, but I’ll tell you, I watched them take our beautiful, raging locomotive of an economy, and slam on the emergency brake.

And then they borrow two trillion dollars to just give away? Morally, the only people who should be getting anything are people and corporations who have paid taxes. Give them some of their money back.

Now, if this bloated tax dollar give-away actually gooses the economy at the time we’re all going back to work, then I will admit I’m wrong about it. But right now . . .


26 posted on 03/26/2020 10:42:30 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (BLACK LIVES MAGA)
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To: VanShuyten

They better rethink that... Hong Kong... 4 deaths to date. Stick with the open society and save your economy.


27 posted on 03/26/2020 10:49:27 PM PDT by jerod (Nazi's were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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To: mvonfr

With 47 deaths in a country of 160 million there is no fudging the stats. The US has fallen for the ‘lock down’ defense... The result so far. Over a thousand deaths with double the population of a very densely populated Japan. That’s 21 times more deaths than Japan.

America and many other western countries that bought into the lock down nonsense will soon out pace Italy... Japan will still have low numbers. The proof is in the pudding... China and Japan... No more lock downs and a thriving economy. The rest of us... Heading for a disaster.


28 posted on 03/26/2020 10:58:10 PM PDT by jerod (Nazi's were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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To: jerod
See post #3.

Japan is using a drug called Favipiravir. China has also trying it and say it's "very effective". Very well could be the reason Japan's is in good shape and maybe why China got mysteriously well again.

The media also accuses Russia for not telling the truth because of their low number of deaths. You now have to wonder what they are using to control the virus.

And here we are, "The best medical system in the world". Bull$hit!

29 posted on 03/26/2020 11:23:55 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: mvonfr

“This makes me suspect that they actually had way higher number of infections and deaths but did not want to ruin the Olympics — lots of money involved. Once the epidemics became global and the Olympics are off, there is no more reason to be creative... so they would let the numbers reveal the true picture... slowly. “

Exactly !


30 posted on 03/26/2020 11:39:12 PM PDT by sushiman (i)
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To: jerod

Has ANYONE in America ever been contacted to say they might have been exposed to the virus because they were at a certain location and asked to be tested?

From what I can see, this was the KEY in South Korea’s strategy and it sounds like Japan’s also. I haven’t seen ANY reports of this happening in the U.S.

It makes perfect sense. The biggest spread of the virus by far seems to come from these large events with a lot of people in close proximity to each other for hours at a time. It’s easy to locate and contact people who were at a specific event. You test them and get them treated or quarantined or self-quarantined and you’ve immediately contained the lion’s share of the exposed people. You’re also catching them early before they have symptoms and have had a chance to spread them.

The U.S. doesn’t seem to be attempting or at least succeeding in doing any kind of investigating to track down people who may have been exposed but don’t know it yet and get them tested.


31 posted on 03/26/2020 11:58:44 PM PDT by JediJones (We must deport all liberals until we can figure out what the hell is going on.)
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To: jmacusa

Thanks for the report. Just want to add that everything I’ve read said the virus is almost harmless to people under 20. They seem to be by far the safest group. Only 2 or 3 of the deaths worldwide appear to have been people under 20. Between 20-30 there seem to be more hospitalizations but still few deaths. As age goes up above that, the virus continues to get more harmful.


32 posted on 03/27/2020 12:04:06 AM PDT by JediJones (We must deport all liberals until we can figure out what the hell is going on.)
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To: MNJohnnie

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33 posted on 03/27/2020 12:28:34 AM PDT by sbnsd
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To: jerod

Japan has strict societal customs that prevent diseases from spreading. It’s very different from U.S. culture in those ways. Try blowing your nose in a crowd there, and see what happens.


34 posted on 03/27/2020 12:40:22 AM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: MNJohnnie
Thank you for your kind thoughts. I trust in modern medicine and The Lord.
35 posted on 03/27/2020 12:42:43 AM PDT by jmacusa (If we're all equal how is diversity our strength?)
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To: JediJones
Yeah, I have. I work in a hospital in southern NJ. I've been told on three occasions since the 19th. of this month I may have been exposed to this filthy disease. I am currently having my temperature monitored twice a day. So far it's been normal. I'm working this Saturday and have been told to report to what's been called our ''command center'' for testing.
36 posted on 03/27/2020 12:48:35 AM PDT by jmacusa (If we're all equal how is diversity our strength?)
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To: VanShuyten
If we get through this thing in one piece by God those Chink bastards need to have the fear of God put in them. Commie bastards have been thumbing their nose at us and the world for decades stealing every bit of technology and intellectual property they can get their hands on.
37 posted on 03/27/2020 12:52:52 AM PDT by jmacusa (If we're all equal how is diversity our strength?)
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To: FormerFRLurker
The Chinese wear masks primarily because there is no such thing as the EPA in China and their industries spew pollution into the air.
38 posted on 03/27/2020 12:57:13 AM PDT by jmacusa (If we're all equal how is diversity our strength?)
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To: jmacusa

Is that people at your hospital telling you that? I didn’t specify, but I’m thinking more of some kind of government task force telling random citizens they should get tested based on them visiting a specific place. I understand health care workers are probably being monitored closely by now.


39 posted on 03/27/2020 12:58:18 AM PDT by JediJones (We must deport all liberals until we can figure out what the hell is going on.)
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To: JediJones

Yes. It’s my employer telling me this. The Barnabas Health Care System.


40 posted on 03/27/2020 1:00:45 AM PDT by jmacusa (If we're all equal how is diversity our strength?)
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