Posted on 03/21/2020 7:31:46 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
“OK, fine. So Fauci’s a typical, deeply embedded administrative state hack who can be expected to be obsequious to his political bosses like Mrs. Clinton. But there’s more to it than that.”
The guy has been “involved” in many medical-science things, but how did he become a top government “expert”. For decades he has said on numerous occasions that a HIV vaccine or cure was just around the corner. Never has happened, but his “expertise” continues to be accepted. Why? Politics, not medical science.
And, I was blaming Ivanka.
“Good to know that FR approves of cancel culture now.”
It’s more obvious now - but ad hominem has been an FR staple for as long as I’ve been reading it.
The ENTIRE Fauci Family needs looking into about STOCKS!! His wife has a different name and she works there also.....and they have adult children....think Hunter Biden!
He say he's a Public Servant which is Democrat speech for DEEP STATE BUREAUCRAT!!
In what way is it's use being delayed? It's use for COVID-19 is so widespread there are shortages.
It is standard of care @ University of Washington, MGH, and everywhere else.
Please check your facts. The FDA has nothing at all to do with us using or not using HCQ.
https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3826760/posts?page=35#35
As to whether Fauci is disruptive or cautious, I think he is a little of both; he sciences-out/geeks-out & is swayed by fellow scientists.
PDJT is the leadership-set-the-example, git-er-done & boot ‘em in the butt sort.
Yep! As soon as Trump left the room today the entire chloroquine subject became an anecdote. Trump is urging hospitals to use this. If it works and cures many we could end this quickly! Fauci loves the spotlight and would love this to go on forever.
Noble wrote:
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“It is possible that the FDA is complicit in delaying use of hydroxychloroquine”
In what way is it’s use being delayed? It’s use for COVID-19 is so widespread there are shortages.
It is standard of care @ University of Washington, MGH, and everywhere else.
Please check your facts. The FDA has nothing at all to do with us using or not using HCQ.”
Also being used at a NY hospital.
Does Trump have a single trustworthy infectious/medical advisor on this?
If so, who is that?
Seems to me like he’s up to his shoulders with gators in the Swamp.
Four years ago FR was full of the same pictures, only it was Trump by Hillary's side, not Fauci.
Hmmmm, it just occurred to me, maybe they are BOTH 'in bed' with Deep State Leftists.
I hate Hillary too, but let's not practice cancel culture on FR. Pinsky is extremely critical of media fearmongering about the virus.
I was concluded he was deep state when he jumped in and said the promising drug Trump was talking about had only “anecdotal” evidence it was effective.
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That was a bit of a red flag to me, too.
Re: “anecdotal evidence”
There are two types of evidence for effectiveness of treatment in our world:
“Anecdotal evidence”, which is the result of observations by individuals, published or not, or unreviewed data from trials underway.
“Data” are the results of one or more clinical trials, preferably randomized, which have been peer reviewed and published.
Calling the Didier Raoult communication “anecdotal” is correct, that’s the way all clinical scientists use the word. And the plural of “anecdote” is not “data”.
Now, there’s nothing wrong with using anecdotal evidence to treat patients. In 1986 Waafa al-Sadr, then a young AIDS researcher, printed by hand and distributed the results of four young men with AIDS-associated pneumonia who were thought certain to die because they were intubated and on mechanical ventilation. JAMA had published a year before an opinion piece that said it was unethical to intubate AIDS patients because they all died. Dr. al-Sadr’s report described giving them very large IV doses of a steroid followed by successful extubation and (temporary) recovery. This was an anecdote by any description.
In 1987-88, I used this method on 99 critically ill AIDS patients with pneumonia, all survived their pneumonia episode. The randomized controlled trial which worked out the science, the timing, the dosages, and all that wasn’t published until November 1990.
Calling a medical observation an “anecdote” isn’t a criticism, it’s just our shop talk. We treat patients based on anecdotes all the time - in fact, I am using hydroxychloroquine + Kaletra right now, today, for COVID-19 pneumonia.
This argument about language is a tempest in a teapot.
Almost everything Edison did was “antidotal”. Much good comes from ethical Edisonian empiricism. Americans do not realize how as the power of the bureaucratic state with its rules, regulations and sanctions has grown, creativity by its physicians and others has been stifled.
Here is why Fauci has a point, and why Trump does not want to fire him: If the world starts using chloroquine without clinical discipline, some patients will stop taking it when they feel better, and an immune super virus could evolve.
NOTE: In the press conference, Fauci said that chloroquine probably would work, but he wanted to prove it.
I hate Hillary, but you could find pictures of Trump smiling with the Clintons. That doesn’t prove anything. I believe Trump and Fauci are on the good side now.
It’s the letter Fauci wrote to her telling Hillary he “loves her” that got to me.
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