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House acts to remove deadline for Equal Rights Amendment
The Associated Press ^ | February 13, 2020 | By MATTHEW DALY

Posted on 02/13/2020 8:39:06 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

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To: goldstategop

Yep. It’s their “look over there” ploy. Nothing more.


41 posted on 02/13/2020 9:23:57 AM PST by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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To: kaehurowing

It’s also about creating a stealth way to force taxpayers to pay for abortion on demand. This ERA revival push is bankrolled by a number of pro-abortion groups like Planned Parenthood, after the New Mexico state supreme court ruled that the state version they passed requires the state government to provide abortion coverage.


42 posted on 02/13/2020 9:24:31 AM PST by HHFi
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To: MattMusson
This is about LGBT rights.

Too bad for these libtarded twits the Supreme Court (including Ruth Ginsburg) handed down a decision that this old liberal identity politics stunt is null and void.

But they can always try to start a new ERA from Square-1 if they like.


43 posted on 02/13/2020 9:34:05 AM PST by Vlad The Inhaler (I love Mankind - It's Just Most Of The People That I Can't Stand)
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To: Repealthe17thAmendment

Selective service and military roles are one area.

What they really want it for is to prevent a rollback of the women’s rights movement, and to continue to tear down the walls that separate the genders in social and legal matters. Basically they want a guarantee that the laws cannot be written on the basis of gender.


44 posted on 02/13/2020 9:37:07 AM PST by david1292
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

How can they retroactively change it? Once it died, under the original legislation passed by a 2/3 majority of BOTH Houses, then to revive the ERA (or any other proposed Constitutional Amendment), you have to pass the whole thing again by a 2/3 majority in BOTH Houses. Otherwise, they might as well be legislating about animal rights issues on a planet in another galaxy for all that this action means.


45 posted on 02/13/2020 9:40:16 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“The House vote ran into political headwinds this week as Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg — a feminist icon — said that fellow ERA supporters should start over in trying to get it passed, rather than counting on breathing life into the failed attempt from the 1970s.

“I would like to see a new beginning,” Ginsburg said Monday night at Georgetown University law school in Washington. “I’d like it to start over.””


Well, the Leftist hag actually got something right, for once. Either that, or she knows that this way of doing things is blatantly unconstitutional and will be batted down when there is the inevitable challenge to the process in the USSC, and is trying to sound like she’s reasonable.


46 posted on 02/13/2020 9:43:04 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

“Or on stupidity.”


Well, that’s for sure. I think that Einstein once said that only two things were infinite, the universe and stupidity, and he wasn’t so sure about the former.

Also, I heard a great variation on the old saying that, “You can’t fix stupid.” Of course we all know that statement is true. However, one guy said, “But you can stun it for a while with a 2 x 4.” Seems worth a try. LOL!


47 posted on 02/13/2020 9:52:25 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: david1292

“Most of the new versions proposed actually switches out sex for gender. They like gender better because it’s a broader term.”


So long as “gender” is defined as being determined by the DNA in each cell of a particular person’s body, then a revived ERA might - MIGHT - be acceptable. Otherwise, no f’ing way.

Oh, and won’t THAT be a beautiful fight, because it’d read out the transformers from protection under the new ERA (well, not those who are really female - but the other freaks).


48 posted on 02/13/2020 9:55:56 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The Amendment that passed Congress had a ratification deadline.

Let them pass another one.


49 posted on 02/13/2020 9:57:04 AM PST by Jim Noble (There is nothing racist in stating plainly what most people already know)
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To: Magnum44

“The House approved the resolution, 232-183”


232 out of 415 cast is only 55.9%, WELL short of a 2/3 majority. This is as legally significant as dropping a cherry bomb on the Sun.


50 posted on 02/13/2020 9:58:14 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: david1292

“A constitutional amendment cannot be unconstitutional. If they pass the ERA it becomes the constitution.”


However, if the “amendment” is passed by means not mandated by the Constitution, then it isn’t an amendment. It may be something else (a law, perhaps), but not an amendment.


51 posted on 02/13/2020 10:02:22 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Come on women of America they’re pandering to you because They think you’re so stupid and gullible

If “equality” has no time limit why didn’t they do this back in the Clinton years or the Obama years when the Rats had it all?

Besides the supreme court has made it well known that the 14th amendment equal protection clause Covers gender issues

Just more BS from a do nothing Congress


52 posted on 02/13/2020 10:48:09 AM PST by A_Former_Democrat (Guns up . . . We cominÂ’ PS: Eric The Blower CIAramella. PASS IT ON)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
How is this not ex post facto?

The amendment bill expired four decades ago. They can't retroactively extend it.

Five states rescinded their ratification, four before it expired and one shortly after.

Just because more states ratified it since its expiration, how do we know that other states chose not to pursue rescinding their ratification because it was moot due to its expiration?

An ex post facto extension of the expiration just to deem it ratified denies the states who thought the bill had expired their right to rescind their ratifications.

-PJ

53 posted on 02/13/2020 10:59:01 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (Freedom of the press is the People's right to publish, not CNN's right to the 1st question.)
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To: MattMusson

>> This is about LGBT rights.

It’s about repression.


54 posted on 02/13/2020 10:59:45 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Political Junkie Too
The ERA was sent to the states in March 1972 with a seven-year ratification window in the joint resolution of Congress. By 1979 not enough states had ratified to meet the three fourths bar, and several states had rescinded their ratifications, an act known as retrocession, or rescission as the shortened legal term. Congress reset the ratification window to March 1982, but there was a problem.

Congress used the legislative process, not the amendatory process, to do this. The legislative process requires only a simple majority in the House and Senate and a presidential signature. The amendatory process requires a two thirds vote in the House and Senate; the president is not a participant. President Carter had misgivings about the constitutionality of what Congress had done, but he signed it anyway and decided to let the courts hash it out.

The National Organization of Women took it to federal court in the case of NOW v. Idaho. The federal district court stated that Congress used the wrong process to extend the ratification window by three years; therefore, the ratification window closed in March 1979, and no other ratifications past that date could be considered.

This decision was appealed to the federal circuit court, which declined to hear the case. The Supreme Court received the case after the March 1982 window had closed, declared the case moot and refused to grant cert, i.e. to hear the case.

The only way to revive the ERA would be to start the process all over again and get two thirds of both Houses of Congress to send it to the states for ratification. The recent ratifications of three states are null and void, and thus they are no more than virtue signaling.

The Justice Department issued a ruling stating that the ratification window closed in March 1982 – which was an error. It actually closed in March 1979 as decreed by the federal court in Idaho. The department ordered the Archivist of the United States not to count the three recent ratifications.

The first attempt to get around this was to file a suit in federal court ripping the ratification window from the joint resolution and opening it up for further ratifications. It was understood that such a suit would fail. Federal courts do not like to tamper with settled law, especially something like Dillon v. Gloss that affects process. Only the Supreme Court itself could change its 1921 decision in Dillon, and that would throw the entire amendatory process into chaos. While the Left enjoys chaos, the courts do not.

Let’s analyze this.

Bottom line: The ERA is dead, and nothing Congress or the courts can do will bring it back. Only by starting all over again can a new ERA be submitted by Congress to the states for ratification. Justice Ginsburg is correct, and she is warning the crazies on the Left not to waste their political capital on this futile exercise.

55 posted on 02/13/2020 11:09:06 AM PST by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill & Publius available at Amazon.)
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To: goldstategop
It's also unconstitutional. . .

So true but the state of education is such that an entire generation is totally unaware of the basics of our republic. When I explain how the government is meant to work and share powers I get a glazed look.

The concept of local, state and federal control is totally alien to them as they think Washington DC is IT!

Forget about the electoral collage . . . come the election they will once again cry that it is so unfair.

Not bad people just ill informed.

56 posted on 02/13/2020 11:32:30 AM PST by lowbuck (The Blue Card (US Passport) Don't leave home without it.)
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To: A_Former_Democrat

I think Republicans better have a good argument for not supporting this.

The ERA was defeated last time because a number of women opposed it and that caused everyone to pause. The fact is that is far less likely to happen today. Most young women today are liberal. And the youth have been hit repeatedly in school with feminist ideology. So there won’t be a Phyllis Shafely this time around.

If it looks like this is only opposed by Republican men, that’s going to look bad.


57 posted on 02/13/2020 12:00:57 PM PST by david1292
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

This is why we need to flip the house...and I think it will be done, bigly!


58 posted on 02/13/2020 2:48:00 PM PST by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable Family...even the dog is, too. :-))
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

what does everyone on this thread plan to do to correct the situation besides complain, discuss, and wait until election day hoping we regain the house, retain the senate, and retain trump?...


59 posted on 02/13/2020 2:57:30 PM PST by heavy metal (your reward will be in heaven not on your paycheck...)
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