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It’s not fine.’ Black mothers and babies are dying in Georgia.
Georgia Recorder ^ | 1-30-20 | Robin Bravender -

Posted on 01/31/2020 3:24:52 PM PST by spintreebob

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To: Lizavetta
I'd be willing to bet that obesity, drugs, alcohol, and lousy diets account for this.
But it's racism, not bad life choices. Got it.

Premarital sex, welfare, no husband/father/daddy around, welfare, lack of education, welfare, unemployment...and too much gubmin help.

Why bother to do ANYTHING but breed more welfare babies? Especially when the gubmin pays them more for each baby?

Also, I think, that black ministers won't TOUCH the issue of daddy-less homes and welfare...not if they want to keep their jobs as minister.

21 posted on 01/31/2020 4:02:03 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: spintreebob
Common sense. No drugs,no cigarettes,little or no alcohol.Add decent,responsible diet and a reasonable amount regular exercise and the problem's solved.
22 posted on 01/31/2020 4:06:29 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (The Rats Can't Get Over The Fact That They Lost A Rigged Election)
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To: Billyv

Also, how many have had multiple previous abortions, which can compromise the integrity of the womb? Or venereal diseases?


23 posted on 01/31/2020 4:15:05 PM PST by Shethink13 (there are 0 electoral votes in the state of denial)
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To: Gay State Conservative
Also manage or eliminate the complicating factors: obesity, hypertension, kidney disease, diabetes, STD's, and domestic violence.

That last one is a biggie. Having a baby can trigger unexpectedly negative emotions in a woman's partner (from anger to jealousy to the accusation that he's "being trapped"). Those emotions can play out brutally against the mother and her unborn baby.

A 2011 NIH study found that pregnancy-associated homicide claimed more lives than many obstetric complications, including hemorrhage and preeclampsia ---and that husbands and/or boyfriends were linked to nearly half of those deaths.

24 posted on 01/31/2020 4:15:38 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("Let us commend ourselves, and one another, and our whole life, unto Christ Our God.")
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To: spintreebob

I think that abortion is the elephant in the room here. A history of previous abortion is as damaging to a pregnancy as smoking, causing premature births and miscarriages. Smoking can be stopped, but a woman cannot go into the past and undo her previous decision to get pregnant despite having no intention to have the baby alive. The damage of abortion is permanent. And black women are especially targeted by the abortion industry.


25 posted on 01/31/2020 4:21:18 PM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org)
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To: Billyv

Even married, college-educated, middle class black women receiving prenatal care have higher rates of pregnancy complication and delivery than their white peers.

Part of this might be a biological tendency. Premature and low birth weight black infants have a higher survival rate than matched white infants, which suggests an innate biology.

I have read many accounts of white women being dismissed or misdiagnosed when they present with preeclampsia symptoms, so it must happen to black women too, and likely more often.

On average black women are more likely to be obese, diabetic, hypertensive, to have STDs, to have violent partners, and live in violent neighborhoods, to have stressful and unstable living situations, and to be unwed. Black girls in their teens have better pregnancy outcomes than women in their twenties, suggesting cumulative stress and health damage.

A campaign to improve pregnancy outcomes for black women would be an excellent thing but it would truly have to be a community reformation, not just taxpayer funded programs.


26 posted on 01/31/2020 4:26:11 PM PST by heartwood (Someone has to play devil's advocate.)
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To: D_Idaho

JAMA published a study many years ago about how even poorer immigrant communities had much lower infant mortality rates. 99%of this is due to human behavior. But let’s attribute it to racism and a lack of government spending. That fits the deep state agenda.


27 posted on 01/31/2020 4:41:45 PM PST by Vehmgericht
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To: exDemMom

Your abortion theory might be true. Maternal and infant deaths have a pattern.
1) Young teens to young to bear children
2) Women of child bearing age 18-35 wWo have a bad lifestyle.
3) Women over 35, some over 40, who waited too long to bear their first child. Most likely some of these career women had abortions. It would be difficult to find the data and prove it one way or the other.

Women over 35 who have given birth to 5 or 6 children already rarely have a problem with the last one. It is that first full term pregnancy and first baby and first post-delivery experience of the women who waited too long that is a problem area.


28 posted on 01/31/2020 4:52:38 PM PST by spintreebob
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To: spintreebob

, “What black women in the U.S. need is accountability. We need to know that our lives are valued. This accountability may be complicated, but government still has an obligation to act. Racism, classism and gender oppression are killing all of us, from rural to urban America.”

It ain’t whitie impregnating your dumb ass. It’s attitude and apathy. Don’t give a shit, then you live like shit. As for accountability, you keep voting for the same Democrap idiots over and over. They don’t care! Even the black people that you vote for the first thing they look to do is move into a rich white neighborhood. You don’t hold them accountable because you stop caring. See a ‘D’ and pull the lever like Pavlov’s dog. You’ll get change when they know they can’t rely on you as a token voter!


29 posted on 01/31/2020 4:54:38 PM PST by Bommer (2020 - Vote all incumbent congressmen and senators out! VOTE THE BUMS OUT!!!)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Don’t forget too much sugar. You’d be amazed at how many complications arise from that.


30 posted on 01/31/2020 4:57:19 PM PST by spintreebob
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Also manage or eliminate the complicating factors: obesity, hypertension, kidney disease, diabetes, STD's...

Those are all connected to the comment I made above.

...and domestic violence.

Yes,domestic violence can be a factor. And that goes to upbringing...boys who are taught that it's OK to beat your wife and girls that are taught to expect abuse as adults.

31 posted on 01/31/2020 4:58:34 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (The Rats Can't Get Over The Fact That They Lost A Rigged Election)
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To: spintreebob

See Post #31


32 posted on 01/31/2020 4:59:54 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (The Rats Can't Get Over The Fact That They Lost A Rigged Election)
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To: exDemMom

Do you have sources for the abortion/later pregnancy complications connection?


33 posted on 01/31/2020 5:29:15 PM PST by Lizavetta
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To: spintreebob

Too many young females getting pregnant and not going for prenatal care


34 posted on 01/31/2020 6:03:04 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Lizavetta

I saw it in a CDC chart back in the 1990s or early 2000s, when I was in graduate school. It was a statistic kind of hidden in a table.

It would take some time for me to find it again.


35 posted on 01/31/2020 7:39:14 PM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org)
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To: spintreebob

Stacy Abrams rolled over on them?


36 posted on 01/31/2020 7:45:15 PM PST by Rebelbase (Time for Trump to go Machiavelli on the democrats and never Trump republicans.)
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To: CatOwner

Yeah, healthy for the Mom.

Not so healthy for the baby...


37 posted on 01/31/2020 8:10:48 PM PST by Alas Babylon! (The prisons do not fill themselves. Get moving, Barr!)
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To: Lizavetta; lepton

Yes, they never take into consideration the number of teenage mothers, possible drug use, smoking, poor diet, etc. To even hint that people need to be responsible for themselves is racist.

Poverty is this country is not really poverty. When they say people are living in poverty they do not count non-cash government benefits. So, people receiving food stamps, welfare, free or subsidized housing, help with utilities, free education for the kids plus the 3 meals a day they provide for school kids year round, and even a free phone. Someone can be getting all this and have a small income and still be counted as living in poverty. In addition there are numerous private charities to count that provide food, school supplies, blankets in the winter, and fans in the summer, etc. The only way anyone can be hungry in the US is if they are mentally or addicted to drugs or alcohol, or their parents are neglecting or abusing them. It’s a bunch of hooey.


38 posted on 01/31/2020 9:13:55 PM PST by Pining_4_TX ("Every election is a sort of advance auction sale of stolen goods." ~ H.L. Mencken)
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To: spintreebob
I wonder if murder is listed as one of the risk factors?

but I don't have any answers...pre term babies are at risk for lower IQ and other problems.....

my ex dil, a black woman with a grad degree, health conscious, thin, eats very well, organic as possible....visited her OB gyn frequently......

she still had problems with her pregnancy and our grandson was pre term, very small, and is now on the autism spectrum........she did everything right...

39 posted on 01/31/2020 9:36:29 PM PST by cherry
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To: spintreebob

racism? as in, every single nurse and doctor in Georgia is other-than-black?

or racism in genetic markers?

or racism in lifestyle?

or racism in social services handing out food stamps, free housing, free prenatal care, free post-natal care, free education, free doctors and free hospital delivery?

that racism?


40 posted on 01/31/2020 9:42:38 PM PST by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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