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Brexit: MPs Back Boris Johnson’s Plans To Leave EU On 31 January
BBC News ^ | 12/20/2019 | N/A

Posted on 12/20/2019 7:51:02 AM PST by goldstategop

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368-124. Boris Johnson’s Tories passed the Brexit Withdrawal Bill in its second reading in Parliament today.

Brexit is getting done!

1 posted on 12/20/2019 7:51:02 AM PST by goldstategop
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Gone on long enough.....time to git er done.


2 posted on 12/20/2019 7:53:07 AM PST by xp38
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past 2020...

So, 12/31/2020 is okay to still be in it, and thus the UK is in the EU for another year plus 10 days. Got it.

3 posted on 12/20/2019 7:54:42 AM PST by C210N
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Oops. Vote was 368-234. A margin of 124.


4 posted on 12/20/2019 7:54:46 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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There will be a transition period of one year to negotiate final Brexit departure arrangements.

UK will remain in the single market and European free trading zone from February 1 onwards but will be outside EU political institutions.


5 posted on 12/20/2019 7:57:01 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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The United States should help them once they are free of the EU. Trade deals and such.

Expecting the EU to shun the UK for leaving. How dare the UK leave this wonderful globalist organization.


6 posted on 12/20/2019 7:59:00 AM PST by dhs12345
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A no deal Brexit could still happen. Next stage is to map out the future of the UK’s post-Brexit relationship with the EU.


7 posted on 12/20/2019 8:01:06 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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I am worried for the UK. I am worried that EU globalists will try to make an example of the UK and will go out of their way to make it difficult. They isolate the UK.

I don't anything about UKs economy and how integrated it is with the EU. However, it probably is extensive.

8 posted on 12/20/2019 8:05:06 AM PST by dhs12345
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That’s why there’s a transition period to create a soft landing. Whether there’s an agreement or not on the final arrangements by the end of next year, Brexit is a done deal.


9 posted on 12/20/2019 8:07:20 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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Lol. Sorry for the broken sentences.
10 posted on 12/20/2019 8:07:26 AM PST by dhs12345
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So the EU is doing this out of the kindness of their hearts? Or are they motivated by the possibility that they might get something out of it?


11 posted on 12/20/2019 8:08:48 AM PST by dhs12345
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After the WAB becomes law, the withdrawal agreement also needs to be ratified by the European Parliament next month.

For 11 months, the UK will still follow all the EU's rules and regulations, it will remain in the single market and the customs union, and the free movement of people will continue.

The challenge for the government will be to get all its new rules and policies in place by the end of next year.

The UK still needs the EU's cooperation for Brexit. Agreement needs to be reached on many things, from trade duties, to thousands of regulations, to tax rules, not only for UK, but for Northern Ireland.

What happens if the EU doesn't cooperate?

12 posted on 12/20/2019 8:09:41 AM PST by PGR88
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Any integration of the UK economy with the EU cuts both ways. Granted, it would hurt the UK more, but the EU still would be hurting itself at the same time.

There's also the issue of what the U.S. does. It is entirely possible the U.S. could put it's thumb on the scales by cutting a more favorable deal with the UK than with the EU, and that really would hurt because the UK and U.S. economies together are larger than the EU's.

13 posted on 12/20/2019 8:11:25 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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In a divorce, going on with separate lives is hard work. This is what this is - a divorce and consummating it is going to be protracted and messy.

Brexit sounded easier in theory than in practice.


14 posted on 12/20/2019 8:11:39 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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Divorcing yourself from tyranny is always messy. Sometimes bloody. Better now than when it is too late.

I hope that the US can be there to help the UK (like we were during WWII).


15 posted on 12/20/2019 8:15:11 AM PST by dhs12345
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If the EU won’t cooperate, there will be a no deal Brexit. There will be a clean break with the EU by December 2020.

A negotiated agreement is preferable but by no means assured.


16 posted on 12/20/2019 8:15:51 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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Maybe it is this fear of the US, that will force the EU to try to be fair to the UK. Lets hope so.

The EU must be concerned about losing power. What other countries might decide to leave once the UK is gone?


17 posted on 12/20/2019 8:18:53 AM PST by dhs12345
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Gee, you think MPs finally got the hint from the queen’s subjects, after they spoke their desires through two elections? What a bunch of chuckleheads.


18 posted on 12/20/2019 8:19:17 AM PST by Hazwaste (Democrats are like slinkies. Only good for pushing down stairs.)
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Looks like we're heading into our own state of dependency.

From https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/congress/item/34391-house-of-representatives-passes-usmca-integration-scheme

On Thursday, December 19, 2019, by a vote of 385 Yeas to 41 Nays, the House of Representatives overwhelmingly passed the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement Implementation Act (H.R. 5430) to approve and implement the USMCA regional integration scheme.

Section 102 of the implementing legislation states: “No provision of the USMCA, nor the application of any such provision to any person or circumstance, which is inconsistent with any law of the United States, shall have effect.” However, the whole purpose of the bill is in fact to change U.S. law in order to be in compliance with the USMCA, once the bill is enacted into law. Section 102 of H.R. 5430 read, in part: “Nothing in this Act shall be construed … to amend or modify any law of the United States, or … to limit any authority conferred under any law of the United States, unless specifically provided for in this Act.”

Regarding State law, Section 102 goes on to state, “No State law, or the application thereof, may be declared invalid as to any person or circumstance on the ground that the provision or application is inconsistent with the USMCA, except in an action brought by the United States for the purpose of declaring such law or application invalid.

In other words, this empowers the federal government to sue states to overturn their laws that conflict with the USMCA. Turning federalism upside down, this language would virtually transform the federal government into an enforcer against the States on behalf of the regional integration scheme…

Donald Trump is not going to be our President forever nor are the democrats going to go away. There are a number of Democrat office holder quotes in the article that sound convincing enough in that they aren't changing their hatred of our freedom and can't wait to get this scheme into play.

19 posted on 12/20/2019 8:20:05 AM PST by MurrietaMadman
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This vote happened only because the election a week ago gave Boris Johnson and his Tories a mandate to get Brexit done.


20 posted on 12/20/2019 8:22:21 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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