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Graham reacts to IG's report on FBI bias: This is a sad day(Video)
Fox - Youtube ^ | 12/09/19 | Lindsey Graham

Posted on 12/09/2019 2:43:17 PM PST by Revel

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To: be-baw

Truth is Graham doesn’t want to investigate anything. It’s clear that he wants all this to go away quickly. As chair of the senate judiciary committee, he will do his damnedest to get it done and over with.

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My fear is Trump doesn’t have anything other than polls to defeat these commies with. If he had some bona fide-laden dirt on them, he could and would have used it by now.

I don’t trust Graham, Horowitz, and even Barr at this point. Durham? Don’t know yet.


41 posted on 12/09/2019 3:49:27 PM PST by CincyRichieRich (Vote for President Trump in 2020 or end up equally miserable, no rights, and eating zoo animals)
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To: Revel
I don't mind Graham cutting the impeachment trial short. It doesn't take much to conclude that the facts, on their face, don;t make the case, and no defense is needed in order conclude no impeachable offense.

My remarks in this thread were on Graham's action with regard to government abuse of its power in order to throw elections, but more narrowly, abuse of the FISA system in order to get legal defense for what would otherwise be felony snooping. That exercise will be as much a whitewash as the Horowitz report.

As for "getting to the truth" of anything, the Senate is where the truth goes to die.

42 posted on 12/09/2019 3:51:19 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Revel

For some reason Lindseed reminds me of little Tommy Dashole..

Remember him?


43 posted on 12/09/2019 3:53:10 PM PST by crz
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To: Revel

Linda and McCain are off the hook


44 posted on 12/09/2019 3:53:47 PM PST by Zathras
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To: Revel

Meanwhile he can’t let the truth come out from Ukraine.

And for anyone with hope from the Horowitz whitewash:

https://vimeo.com/378405689


45 posted on 12/09/2019 3:53:54 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Kickass Conservative
This is a sad day

Linda had a sad day and we only want happy days. I think there are drugs for that.

46 posted on 12/09/2019 3:55:07 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: Revel

So as far as Lindseed goes, we know who will put forth the motion to dismiss the case in the senate now dont we?


47 posted on 12/09/2019 3:55:07 PM PST by crz
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To: Cboldt
That's really bad advice, because the official finding is no(t) that anybody's 4th amendment was violated, in fact the opposite. The finding was that the "low threshold" for justifying snooping was met. The Horowitz report cuts off the civil claim.

I disagree. The second and third extensions to the FISA court applications were done when the FIB knew that the source for the Dossier disavowed the information in the dossier and the FIB lied to the court that the information was still good. The predicate for the initial application may have met the "low Threshold" but any subsequent extension was based upon information that the FIB knew to be false.

48 posted on 12/09/2019 3:56:16 PM PST by Timocrat (Ingnorantia non excusat)
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To: Cboldt
SCHIFF MEMO(He Lied): OIG RPT: "Steele's information was never used in a criminal proceeding" and "most of it had not" been corroborated
49 posted on 12/09/2019 4:05:10 PM PST by Revel
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To: Cboldt

Sorry for some reason the formatting on FR is all screwed up these days. Spacing is all screwed up when doing a preview. And then what actually posts does not even equal what is seen in the preview.


50 posted on 12/09/2019 4:07:07 PM PST by Revel
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To: Timocrat

I looked at the civil liability statute, and Page may be entitled to damages on all of the warrants.

I see the statute as either “all in” or “all out.” Depends on how 50 USC 1810 is parsed.

On way to read is 1810 is damages are owed to anybody who is the subject of FISA surveillance who is not an agent of a foreign power, whether or not there is a warrant.

Another way to read it is damages are owed to anybody who is snooped without a warrant.

The law has never been tested. FISA work is nearly 100% in secret, never even gets to criminal court. There is no way to find out you’ve been under a FISA warrant. Disclosure of the warrant on Page was a fluke.


51 posted on 12/09/2019 4:07:45 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt
SCHIFF MEMO(He Lied):

OIG RPT: "Steele's information was never used in a criminal proceeding" and "most of it had not" been corroborated

52 posted on 12/09/2019 4:07:50 PM PST by Revel
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To: Candor7
Last week, Linda said he was going to take names and kick ass! And now he’s not excited?

Maybe it was a misquote. Graham may have said "I came here to do two things and two things only. Chew gum and kick ass. I just ran out of gum."

Then a Soros owned gum distributor forced the first packages of 10 year's supply of Bazooka bubble gum into his hands.

53 posted on 12/09/2019 4:15:43 PM PST by frank ballenger (End vote fraud & harvesting,non-citizen voting & leftist media news censorship or we are finished.)
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To: Revel
BURN👏🏼IT 👏🏼DOWN👏🏼!!! DC has past its expiration date! They are useless!
54 posted on 12/09/2019 4:25:14 PM PST by RoseofTexas
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To: Revel
Miss Lindsey is covered with Ukraine dirt...

#OANN


55 posted on 12/09/2019 4:25:33 PM PST by newfreep ("INSIDE EVERY PROGRESSIVE IS A TOTALITARIAN SCREAMING TO GET OUT" - DAVID HOROWITZ)
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To: Cboldt
The law has never been tested.

My guess is that the Government will want to settle out of court. Carter Page should strike now because the FISA court authorization must be renewed by December 15th and people like Rand Paul are not going to vote to renew when there is clear evidence of the FBI deceiving the court. What is to stop any future rogue FBI agents from repeating what was done?

In any case there is probably a long line of contingency fee lawyers wanting to urgently talk to Carter Page.

56 posted on 12/09/2019 4:38:51 PM PST by Timocrat (Ingnorantia non excusat)
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To: Timocrat
-- My guess is that the Government will want to settle out of court. --

No doubt. Same with criminal prosecution, it won't happen. There is a risk that the law will be struck down as an impermissible encroachment on executive prerogative to conduct warrantless snooping.

57 posted on 12/09/2019 4:40:57 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Revel; humblegunner
I will bet you $100 bucks.....Lindsey folds.

We can have humblegunner hold the money.What you say?

58 posted on 12/09/2019 4:42:44 PM PST by Osage Orange (Whiskey Tango Foxtrot)
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To: Timocrat
FISA was already renewed, by the way. The renewal is contained in HR 3055, now P.L. 116-69

SEC. 1703. SUNSETS.

(a) Section 102(b)(1) of the USA PATRIOT Improvement and Reauthorization Act of 2005 <> (50 U.S.C. 1805 note) is amended by striking ``December 15, 2019'' and inserting ``March 15, 2020''.

(b) Section 6001(b)(1) of the Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004 (50 U.S.C. 1801 note) is amended by striking ``December 15, 2019'' and inserting ``March 15, 2020''.


59 posted on 12/09/2019 4:57:27 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Revel

Not nearly as sad as McGrahamesty.


60 posted on 12/09/2019 4:57:46 PM PST by ImpBill (Conservative voter sans political Party!)
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