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Election Fraud on a National Scale?
American Thinker ^ | 11-22-19 | Eric Georgatos

Posted on 11/22/2019 6:48:31 PM PST by Revel

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How stupid we’ve become. Once voting became computerized, the software/algorithms provide whatever results they’ve been written to provide. Not actual results. Lawful representative government: going, going, gone.

By the time most citizens figure it out it will be _long_ gone.

Duh.


61 posted on 11/26/2019 7:57:28 AM PST by veracious (UN=OIC=Islam; USgov may be radically changed, just amend USConstitution)
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To: Revel

The solution is simple. Do not connect the voting machines to anything online. Have both a paper and an electrical tabulation, and compare them. Keep records of chain of custody of all ballot boxes. Investigate all discrepancies.


62 posted on 11/26/2019 8:04:02 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: Revel

Fraud is the Democrat way.


63 posted on 11/26/2019 8:04:22 AM PST by Amish with an attitude
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To: veracious

He who writes the voter software, decides the elections.


64 posted on 11/26/2019 8:08:46 AM PST by veracious (UN=OIC=Islam; USgov may be radically changed, just amend USConstitution)
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To: ocrp1982
" If this is so and, there is solid empirical evidence to back it up then take legal action."

And no voting machines! Trackable paper ballots only.

65 posted on 11/26/2019 8:11:08 AM PST by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait do it today.)
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To: robel
"And they have nothing to lose in the next election. If they lose the election, they’re afraid that prosecutions will rain down on them the next four years. If they can steal the election, they go free"

Democrats have to be defeated or the U.S.A loses everything.

66 posted on 11/26/2019 8:18:54 AM PST by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait do it today.)
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To: All

Fraud the deep state, globalist way.


67 posted on 11/26/2019 8:22:40 AM PST by veracious (UN=OIC=Islam; USgov may be radically changed, just amend USConstitution)
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To: pburgh01

Or just get rid of the machines that have been proven numerous times to be compromised. It’s not that hard and you have to ask yourself why nothing has been done. We barely got by last time.


68 posted on 11/26/2019 8:25:35 AM PST by George Rand (-- I can't befriend liberals because I won't befriend ignorance --)
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To: ocrp1982
If this is so and, there is solid empirical evidence to back it up then take legal action.

It is not like this hasn't been known for 20 years or more. The Deep State has assured that every attempt to address this has been blown out of the water.

69 posted on 11/26/2019 10:48:26 AM PST by itsahoot (Welcome to the New USA where Islam is a religion of peace and Christianity is a mental disorder.)
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To: Ransomed

“Millions and millions vote and it is roughly tied? I always thought that part was very strange.”

I have wondered about that too. I studied statistics in college, so I tried to imagine what statistical anomaly (other than fraud) could account for the seemingly improbable closeness we see in some scores - voting, athletics or whatever.

You see it in basketball. So often, with 2 minutes left on the clock, the score is something like 105 to 104. What can account for that? Are the two teams really that equally matched, or is there something else going on?

I think the answer is in the way the game is designed, the way the rules are set. After each score, the other team gets control of the ball. The rules also favor the offense over the defense, so that once a team gets control of the ball, it is easier for that team to score than it is for the other team to stop them from scoring, without committing a foul.

To demonstrate the theory, you could exaggerate the effect by making a rule that said the defense has to stand still and do nothing. Obviously, the result would be that the two teams would take turns scoring two points and always wind up in a near tie - which is what usually happens. Conversely, you could change the rules so that the other team does NOT get the ball after a score, but instead has to fight for it like a rebound. Then, I think you would see more runaway point spreads.

I see it also in billiards and tennis - tennis pros usually win their serve - billiards pros usually break and run. So if the rules are alternating break, or alternating serve, it will naturally produce a tight race.

How does that relate to voting? I think it comes down to “the rules of the game” favoring the spread of misinformation through dishonest and/or incompetent journalism, and favoring widespread voter ignorance through lack of education regarding civics, economics, and the proper role of government.

For example, let’s say that 95% of voters are so uninformed or misinformed about the true pros and cons of the candidates, that they really have no rational basis for their decision - they are essentially guessing who to vote for. In other words, they may as well be flipping a coin, and we know repeating a coin toss will eventually produce a 50/50 result.

So, according to this theory, elections are only decided at the margin - the, say, 5% of voters who are making a rational, informed decision will favor the superior candidate, while the other 95% cancel each other out.

I think in a re-election scenario the result is usually a wider spread, because the incumbent has become a “known”, so instead of, say, 95% flipping a coin, most voters have at least some rational basis for their decision.

In billiards, that would be the equivalent of a winner breaks rule instead of alternating break - then you are far more likely to see runaway point spreads.

Of course, this is all conjecture on my part, for lack of a better explanation.


70 posted on 11/26/2019 10:55:23 AM PST by enumerated
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To: enumerated

Both sides vastly underestimate the number of eligible voters that care like they do, at least enough to vote about it one way or the other. The eligible voters that choose not to vote have outnumbered the turnout of either political party for 100+ years. The true horror of the situation is that supposedly the dumbest 10% of eligible voters that somehow manage to vote actually decide all presidential elections, the swing voters.

If that’s true, elections aren’t contests between opposing political philosophies, but contests determined by whomever is able to sway the swayable voters who have no guiding political philosophy. The result could be good or bad, con or lib, but invariably it wasn’t determined by informed voters voting based on a considered political philosophy. It was supposedly determined by the swayable voters voting on non-rational reasons like who the media said won a debate or if the candidate looks like them or whatever.

Freegards


71 posted on 11/26/2019 4:35:16 PM PST by Ransomed
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To: Revel
My biggest worry about 2020 election.

Hope POTUS has enough resources working on fraud.

72 posted on 11/26/2019 4:41:20 PM PST by Churchillspirit (9/11/2001 and 9/11/2012: NEVER FORGET.)
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To: Ransomed

That makes sense.

I think the biggest perverter of election results is the myth that Democrat politicians are the compassionate ones and protectors of the little guy, whereas Republican politicians are protectors of the selfish and the rich.

There is no truth to it but they have managed to brainwash the masses.

Until that myth is exploded, the Democrats will get far more support than they deserve, and Republicans far less.

If the truth was known about the devastating impact that oversized government and wealth redistribution programs pushed by Democrats have had on the lower and middle classes, the Democrats would never get another vote.


73 posted on 11/26/2019 6:16:49 PM PST by enumerated
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74 posted on 11/26/2019 10:02:49 PM PST by bitt (You can't get rich in politics unless you're a crook. Harry Truman)
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To: frank ballenger; Liz
"(End vote fraud & harvesting,non-citizen voting & leftist media news censorship or we are finished.)"

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From your lips to .......

75 posted on 11/27/2019 2:30:47 AM PST by a little elbow grease (... to err is human, to admit it divine ...)
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To: Liz; Revel

thanx for bringing attention to national voter fraud.

there is a huge risk out there for 2020 & it is important to get this word out

iirc, the state of Georgia voter data base was hacked in 2016.....by US Dept of Homeland Security.

I think I’ve read recent post that say DHS may have attempted to hack into 18 states in 2016???

bttt


76 posted on 11/27/2019 7:29:44 AM PST by thinden
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To: Mariner

Project Veritas got lots of people bragging about cheating. Are you expecting the MSM to report on it?


77 posted on 11/27/2019 7:30:32 AM PST by MNDude
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SOURCE: https://www.wsj.com/articles/georgia-reports-attempt-to-hack-states-election-database-via-ip-address-linked-to-homeland-security-1481229960

Georgia Says Someone in U.S. Government Tried to Hack State’s Computers Housing Voter Data
Unsuccessful intrusion came on Nov. 15 apparently via Department of Homeland Security IP address

By Byron Tau / Updated Dec. 8, 2016 6:17 pm ET

The secretary of state of Georgia is asking the Department of Homeland Security to explain what appears to be an attempted breach of the state’s computer systems that house its voter registration database by someone in the federal government.

In a letter to Department of Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson dated Thursday, Georgia’s Secretary of State Brian Kemp said the state had discovered an unsuccessful attempt to breach the firewall of state computer systems. The attempt occurred on Nov. 15 and was linked to an IP...rest at paywall


78 posted on 11/27/2019 7:43:05 AM PST by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: thinden
The biggest voter scheme is the use of modern-day slavery----herding together identity-types
across borders-------and selling them as Democrat voters.
79 posted on 11/27/2019 7:45:45 AM PST by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: Liz

exactly.

the herd doesn’t have to be too big to take over a congressional seat (eg. Omar in Minnieapolstan)

few more hers in concentrated areas and you can elect a mayor of a major city (eg. kahn in Londonistan)

before long the weapon of choice for our enemies to take over our democracy is the ballot box.


80 posted on 11/27/2019 12:14:45 PM PST by thinden
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