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(I’m pinging the group) Actually, it’s as though Trump has caused them all to get spines. Like that point in the movie where everyone is trembling in the trench, then the hero sergeant says, “What are you waiting for? You wanna live forever?” And they all charge out of the trench.

Andy Biggs, my congressman from AZ has always been good. But I had concerns about Debbie Lesko in AZ 9 (?). She has been terrific. Chris Steward (UT) another I had no concerns over, but Mike Turner? I need to reevaluate him. He has always VOTED the right way, but I never thought his heart was in it. The last few days, it was.

So this is what this tells me: Trump has instilled a level of confidence and power in these GOPers who are left. I think it’s even getting to the Senate with both Grassley and Graham ready to (I know, I know, “about to,” “prepared to”) call witnesses, including Biteme’s kid. But there was an interesting comment today from Sen. Rob Portman of OH: in a lunch meeting that included Minion and Tom Collins, Portman said he “advised” Trump, “don’t focus too much on impeachment. Let your allies in the House and Senate handle it.”

Now, I know: there are two ways to take this: “That snake, trying to get Trump to back off so the Senate will do nothing.” I don’t think so. I’ve interacted with Portman. He isn’t a fighter. He usually seeks to avoid confrontation. But now he seems ready. Honestly, if a voter were today, I don’t think Trump would lose ONE Republican, including Minion, and would likely pick up Manchin . . . possibly Enema. Something about Portman’s phrase was “We have a plan in the senate. We will handle this.”

Now, of course I want to believe that, but also, I think we are now sufficiently close to an election that the Senate Rs HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE. If they abandon Trump in any way, they will never work in politics again. This isn’t hyperbole. It’s reality, and they know it. So I think they are girding up to just annihilate the D witnesses.

Based on how the House has destroyed these D witnesses, some of the guys in the Senate, like Hawley, Cotton, Scott, Cruz, Rand Paul, will eviscerate these people.

Just my take.

I hope you are right.

You have a lot of both knowledge and contacts.

It’s possible that Dems overplayed their hand.

And self-interested Pubs see backing the President as a key to their own political survival.

Perhaps their calculus has changed. They have seen Trump fight, without giving an inch, for three years. He has weathered every storm.

The Pubs may not like Trump, and they may not want to be like Trump - but they want to win like Trump.

Agree with you Larry. For Trump it's bring it on time.

Trump fully expected to be impeached when the (D)'s took over and he has planned his counter attack accordingly long ago. Timing is everything, and I think the reason the Horowitz report has been delayed has in part been due to another famous Trump 3-D chess strategy.

The Shiff Show has been a blow out disaster for the (D)'s and any (D)'s that vote to impeach Trump based on the findings of the Shiff Show will suffer on that basis alone. Trump's polls rise, (D)'s calls for impeachment sink. This is 3-D strategy #1 successfully played.

Strategy 2 can be played whether House impeaches or not. Senate can do its own investigation and call witnesses. Since House set precedent for doing so, Senate can do their own investigation led by Graham. In any event Senate investigation provides the forum for opening the Horowitz can of whoop ass.

In the background - quietly - is John Durham's criminal investigation -- the guy who actually prosecutes what Horowitz and he have discovered. Add to this the recent Ukraine-led indictment of the Burisma clan. No telling what their discovery has uncovered Together this can effectively set up the prosecution of the entire Ukraine conspirators - Biden - Kerry Pelosi - under terms of the treaty signed in 1999 by Bill Clinton. This is truly "3-D" strategy -- a Trilateral Prosecution from which the Deep State Dept (or any of the Vindman/whistleblower "Oba-moles") will not escape.

Strategy 3: BiteMe bites the dust, but recall what he said in his quid-pro-quo call that he bragged about at the CFR:

“I had gotten,” he added, “a commitment from [President] Poroshenko and from [Prime Minister] Yatsenyuk that they would take action against the state prosecutor. And they didn’t. So they said they had — they were walking out to a press conference. I said, nah, I’m not going to — or, we’re not going to give you the billion dollars. They said, ‘you have no authority. You’re not the president.’”

“The president said — I said, call him,” Mr. Biden replied, evoking, the CFR transcript notes, laughter.

(Quoted from ‘Well, Son of a Bitch’ : Ukraine Scandal Is About Biden Editorial of The New York Sun | September 25, 2019)

Call who, BiteMe? Who is "him"?

You mean Obama was personally in on this racket too? As a sitting President" Only a full investigation will reveal this, right?

Who says you can't impeach a President retro-actively for crimes committed during his Presidency?

Strategy 4: Investigation into Obama gets to go anywhere ... just like it did with Mueller against Trump. Columbia U may be getting a call and a subpoena. Trump has a score to settle from an investigation which for him started back in 2011 with the phony birth certificate. Lots of Deep Staters covered for this prick, never mind re-opening Hillary's 33000 scrubbed eMails and Benghazi weapons trafficking cover-up. Might even open up pedo "Liddle" Adam Schiff's connections to the child trafficking cabal in WeHo at the Standard Hotel, hmmmmm?

You see where I am going with this?

FReegards!

We hope that you are correct here:

Based on how the House has destroyed these D witnesses, some of the guys in the Senate, like Hawley, Cotton, Scott, Cruz, Rand Paul, will eviscerate these people.

Just my take.