Posted on 11/01/2019 5:03:33 AM PDT by Kaslin
Nearby Paterson NJ a few years ago had less than 10 high school graduates proficient in math - and those teachers draw combat pay (they rake in a lot, for 180 days of “work” per year). I italicized “work” because obviously nothing is happening...
The one private school here is worse than the public schools. When kids demand to transfer back with their public school friends or to play sports or their parents can’t afford it, they usually have to be placed back a grade. When parents pay tuitition, they pay to see a good report card whether their kid is earning the grade or not. American education across the board is nothing but a joke.
My grandmother taught in NYC Public from 1911-1966.
When she was confronted about unequal outcomes near the end of her career, she would shrug and say, “somebody’s gotta clean the subways”.
Too bad she’s not in charge.
Our private schools were much better in the past, but the quality suffered as the economy tanked (with no light at the end of the tunnel). Many will now accept anyone and tolerate anything just to keep tuition rolling in; an older friend described this as exactly what happened in private colleges when people needed draft deferments - and especially after the draft was over (they’d grown so large, the demand fell off, and they would have shrunk or closed).
I am one who does not care.
Those who want to learn, will. In spite of what is offered to them in school.
Those who don’t want to learn, won’t. No matter what fare is offered.
My ex wife taught in public schools in both CA and NV.
She would often go on tirades about the pressure to make the stupid, smart.
Even though everyone know you cannot fix stupid.
You can’t even call stupid, stupid. Nor can stupid be acknowledged.
Average IQ for black and Hispanic kids continues to hover between 80 and 85. That’s genetic and can’t be fixed. Half of all of them are below 80. Rarely do you find one that’s over 100, even by small margin.
BTT
At minimum, teachers should be required to pass proficiency exams in reading, writing and math.
There are teachers out there who are unqualified to be teaching.
Those who want to learn, will. In spite of what is offered to them in school.
Those who don’t want to learn, won’t. No matter what fare is offered.
For lots of reasons, including legal ones, it is very hard to exclude misbehaving kids from the class nowadays. In today’s world, a major function of public schools is to ‘keep kids off the streets’. Schools and teachers, for the most part didn’t ask for this—it was decided by politicians higher up the food chain.
The recent drive to break the “school to prison pipeline” has only made things worse. Like so many things, the advocates have things backwards. Most in prison were in trouble in school. They think if only troublemakers didn’t get punished in school, they wouldn’t end up in prison—ignoring the possibility that bad kids naturally turn into bad adults.
This ping list is for the other articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. This can occasionally be a fairly high volume list. Articles pinged to the Another Reason to Homeschool List will be given the keyword of ARTH. (If I remember. If I forget, please feel free to add it yourself)
The main Homeschool Ping List handles the homeschool-specific articles. I hold both the Homeschool Ping List and the Another Reason to Homeschool Ping list. Please freepmail me to let me know if you would like to be added to or removed from either list, or both.
Check out some of the fancy palatial facilities and high school football stadiums (complete with hidef jumbo screens). Meanwhile, they serve subsidized trash in the cafeterias, lots of students get no homework, and their parents allow them to play on their devices until all hours. Even here in this forum, I got attacked for “judging” the mom who got shot by police when she was playing xbox with an 8 yr old at 2AM! As though I was blaming her for being shot?! Where are the responsible adults any more? And I’d like Christians (I am one) to stop whining about liberal teachers and liberal policies. Get off your rear ends and take control of you child’s education. Home school or private school your child and get involved locally. Public schooling is NOT going away, sadly. $648B is too much money and power. And SCOTUS is NEVER going to allow the Bible back I the classroom.
As to another post...I also despise the Bushes for being a part of this despicable system. I’ll never forget hearing the fawning adulation of a (supposedly) Christian radio host interviewing Neil B (?) here locally. It was clear to me that the adulation was not mutual. Bush came across as an arrogant POS.
I don’t believe that it is genetic. It is related to broken families, poor diet and nutrition, and cultural degradation, much of which can be blamed on the welfare state. Talk to African blacks with education and you will see that even with the poverty over there, there is respect for traditional family, and no welfare state. It is the African and Asian churches which have refused to endorse buggery, for example. White liberals and welfare state supporters have done a number on African Americans.
“The only way for outcomes of K-12 to be equal is for everyone to be equally stupid. Get used to it.”
In attempting to explain this concept to a liberal I asked if he had ever been to the mountains and he said yes so I asked if he could imagine huge machinery leveling the mountains and he said yes so I asked him how it would be done and he said all the peaks would be cut off and the fill dumped in the low places resulting in a plain. I then asked if the resulting plain would be closer to the level of the lowest points existing before the leveling or to the highest points before leveling. At that point he seemed to have a glimmer of understanding. I really don’t know why people have so much trouble seeing what is obvious.
When I was in Elementary School (1955-1962) we had two special classrooms - one for dumb kids, one for behavior problems.
Things ran very smoothly.
we had two special classrooms - one for dumb kids, one for behavior problems.
If a kid is really, really disruptive, then at some point he will be “diagnosed” with some kind of behavior disorder. As soon as that happens he will be “handicapped” and given an I.E.P. (Individualized Education Program) and become basically immune from punishment. As a bonus, his parents may be able to draw a check from Social Security—SSI also known as “crazy money”.
Your local school is then obligated to give the lad/lass an “appropriate” education until the age of 21, and if necessary provide education 12 month a year instead of 9.
Things don’t run as smoothly as they once did. And don’t even think about trying to change the law that requires all of this. What are you? Some kind of monster who wants the handicapped to languish? How dare you! How dare you!
Thanks for that, good background. F the Bushes.
As for Betsy DeVos — why the hell is she still there? PDJT: HELLO?!?!?
“U.S Education Secretary Betsy Devos Agrees To Dystopian U.N Education Agenda”
Wrong link, anti-Trump, sorry. This is better:
“DeVos Signs on to Globalist UN Education Agenda for U.S.”
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.