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GOP lawmaker invokes possibility of 'civil war' after House votes on Trump impeachment procedures
The Hill ^ | 10/31/2019 | Aris Folley

Posted on 10/31/2019 3:49:32 PM PDT by Crazieman

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To: BenLurkin

Everybody wants to talk about a Civil War 2.0, but I think few people really think about what that means.

As others have pointed out, I believe the differences will be Urban vs. Rural so how do battle lines get drawn? Are battle lines even necessary?

The big question is what will all those country boys who signed up for military service do? Will they honor their oaths, or will they follow Robert E. Lee’s example and choose to side with their homeland?

If they honor their oaths, they cities have already won. Otherwise, things could be quite interesting.

And, for the record, I have come to believe that we can effectuate massive change and bring the cities to their knees without massive amounts of bloodshed. The rural population still has the upper hand as so many distopian novels and movies have already pointed out.


41 posted on 10/31/2019 4:50:48 PM PDT by beancounter13
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To: DesertRhino
But that may be all that is left if they end our ability to vote.

What's the saying about boxes: soap box, ballot box, cartridge box? There's been plenty of soap boxes and we know the ballot box is highly questionable given the anomalies such as voters rising from the dead, precincts with more than 100% of registered voters voting, etc. So there is only box left.

42 posted on 10/31/2019 5:00:39 PM PDT by voicereason (The RNC is like the "one-night stand" you wish you could forget.)
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To: Crazieman

Odds are rising.


43 posted on 10/31/2019 5:05:26 PM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself.)
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To: BenLurkin
Anybody who wants things to turn to a shooting war are nuts.

I know what you mean. We did not want a civil war.

The Left is going to decide on whether to do it or not and exactly when.

They will suddenly confront and violently injure or kill a large number of Trump supporters. Someday. We don't know what city or what gathering. The Left's decision.

Not our decision and not our fault.

We wanted Trump to be fairly elected in 2016 (done) and be allowed to serve while the loyal opposition Dems wait to convince voters to fairly elect one from their side in 2020 (NOT being allowed).

Their coup is to remove Trump without a shot being fired. Then the suppression of talk radio,gun rights, citizen only voting, free speech and so on. Never another GOP president once TX,FL and others turn Dem.

Past unavoidable violence: Muslim slaughter of "infidels" before the Crusades began. Germany,Japan and Italy Axis fighting WWII.(US stayed out for years). 1776 pushback at Lexington and Concord after trying to work it out with British. Native Americans killing and torturing American pioneer families who wanted to settle. Several Arab countries attacking Jews who tried to found Israel on the same day in 1948. Armenian Massacre. Communist Chinese violent takeover of Tibet.

All of the above were first avoided. Henry Ford and others had a Peace Ship to try to avoid war with Germany. Chamberlain did his appeasement attempt. Europeans on American frontier could have said "That's it, no more settlement by us in North America---the "Indians" are right. We give up. Back to Europe." Majority of 1776 New Yorkers had congenial parties with British and didn't want the messy war(the "Loyalists").

As has been said: War is a terrible thing but something worse is slavery.

We do not want a civil war and we know it would bring tragedy and hardship. Not a decision to be taken lightly.

44 posted on 10/31/2019 5:06:04 PM PDT by frank ballenger (End vote fraud & harvesting,non-citizen voting & leftist media news censorship or we are finished.)
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To: Crazieman

All things considered, it’s pretty apparent that civil war is the primary objective of these democrat establishment deep state scoundrels.


45 posted on 10/31/2019 5:06:31 PM PDT by drypowder
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To: LouieFisk

“”It takes actions, not BS words, to impress me.””

I don’t believe he’s ever been afraid to take action. He doesn’t give the impression that politics is just a way to earn a pension - he was doing fine as a judge, he didn’t need to run. The TEA Party called and he answered the call. TX has always had some great legislators who didn’t need the job - but the job needed them!

He has never shown me that he’s just someone looking out for himself or to feather his own nest. I bet if you asked him, he would say he didn’t need the job but someone had to do it. Why give up a judgeship to take flak? That’s my opinion. I don’t like BS any more than the next person but I don’t see BS in Gohmert’s actions! I’ve always seen sincerity.

There are presently 197 Republicans in the House and how many can you count on to get out in front and call BS on the democrats in the House? I bet you couldn’t name 5. You all wanted miracles performed by Trey Gowdy as if he was the only one representing the Republicans and could get the job done alone. He’s gone and I’m sure there are lots here who are happy. Why fault the ones who are the most outspoken? The ones who care?

Other than the ones who don’t mind speaking their mind, (Gaetz, Jordan, Gohmert, Meadows, Scalise and a few others), none of us would even recognize them if they came to our door - trick or treating!


46 posted on 10/31/2019 5:10:22 PM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: voicereason

We really need a way to get rid of the stench that thousands of dead liberals would produce but then again I can remember the smell of napalm in the morning so it probably wouldn’t last past dinner.


47 posted on 10/31/2019 5:14:43 PM PDT by Colo9250
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To: CMailBag

Remember the distinction between the letter of the law and the spirit of the law.


48 posted on 10/31/2019 5:17:42 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (What are the implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: Thank You Rush

“I don’t see BS in Gohmert’s actions!”

That’s exactly my point - he has taken no “actions”, he’s just thrown out words - red meat to whomever will gobble it up, ask no questions and thus he can go on with his govt job, reaping the $$$.
It’s not about him specifically, per se, they are all compromised. If we ever see some deeds that match the bold claims, I’ll be much more than happy to stand corrected.


49 posted on 10/31/2019 5:19:18 PM PDT by LouieFisk (https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2019/10/16/trump-letter-to-turkeys-erdogan-dont-be-a-foo)
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To: Thank You Rush

I’d just suggest that it’s wise to be careful about whom one chooses to put on a pedestal.


50 posted on 10/31/2019 5:22:57 PM PDT by LouieFisk (https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2019/10/16/trump-letter-to-turkeys-erdogan-dont-be-a-foo)
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To: TomGuy

Dems have railing against the Constitution for decades and generally completely ignore it. Their refusal to accept the peaceful transfer of power to the duly elected victor in 2016 is the most troubling thing. When they routinely trample the constitution and refuse the peaceful transfer of power, we are truly in uncharted territory.

Interesting idea about getting Republicans to begin talking about banning the Democrat party. Makes a lot of sense.


51 posted on 10/31/2019 5:23:17 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: LouieFisk

It might also be wise to avoid aiming at our own when there are so many opposition targets available.


52 posted on 10/31/2019 5:37:13 PM PDT by Hugh the Scot (I won`t be wronged. I won`t be insulted. I won`t be laid a hand on. - John Bernard Books)
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To: Hugh the Scot

“It might also be wise to avoid aiming at our own when there are so many opposition targets available.”

If you assume the two are mutually exclusive actions, you may have a point.
Though, to my thinking, it’s the frauds on what we assume to be on “our side” that may perhaps be more problematic than the frauds on the other side.


53 posted on 10/31/2019 5:43:24 PM PDT by LouieFisk (https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2019/10/16/trump-letter-to-turkeys-erdogan-dont-be-a-foo)
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To: LouieFisk

“”I’d just suggest that it’s wise to be careful about whom one chooses to put on a pedestal.””

I don’t know about you but after being on this planet for 80+ years, I’ve learned that lesson, thank you very much. No one gets put on any pedestal by me but I do believe in giving credit where credit is due and anyone with guts enough to take on the establishment and fight - stand up/speak up - for what’s right gets my vote - even tho’ I’m not in TX... How many can you name who do that? Like I said - of 197 Republicans, how many can you name who are courageous enough to risk a reelection by sticking their neck out?


54 posted on 10/31/2019 5:46:52 PM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: LouieFisk

Can’t help but wonder just WHO you do think IS worthy of support/backing/our thanks? Of those 197?


55 posted on 10/31/2019 5:49:26 PM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: Thank You Rush

We’ll know if any of the pretenders to the crown start walking the walk. All we gotten so far is non-committal “harruphs” from the pretenders whose interests rest solely in keeping their government golden parachutes.
I understand the “ain’t it awful?” harrumphing is all it takes to satisfy some - that’s fine - I’m just not one.


56 posted on 10/31/2019 5:58:16 PM PDT by LouieFisk (https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2019/10/16/trump-letter-to-turkeys-erdogan-dont-be-a-foo)
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To: Crazieman

I’m just curious as to why my handle is attached to this. Not that I’m complaining - as the saying goes - even bad PR..., heh, .....Just curious....


57 posted on 10/31/2019 6:01:12 PM PDT by LouieFisk (https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2019/10/16/trump-letter-to-turkeys-erdogan-dont-be-a-foo)
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To: LouieFisk

I agree. I don’t know what your specific issue with Gohmert is though.

Far from placing him on a pedestal, I still believe that he is one of the more honorable thieves.


58 posted on 10/31/2019 6:06:26 PM PDT by Hugh the Scot (I won`t be wronged. I won`t be insulted. I won`t be laid a hand on. - John Bernard Books)
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To: LouieFisk

Gohmert is one of the good guys you f’n Idiot troll.


59 posted on 10/31/2019 6:12:24 PM PDT by ohioman
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To: beancounter13
The rural population still has the upper hand as so many distopian novels and movies have already pointed out.

Real-life experiences would seem to indicate this is not the case.

See worked examples in Venezuela, Argentina, Ecuador, Serbia and Syria. Small rural enclaves get overrun and pillaged by Government-sponsored militia from the cities. Whoever controls the cities usually dominates the surrounding areas.

That bug-out location in the middle of nowhere gets wiped out by local bandits - or becomes the headquarters for the local bandits.

Small towns and major suburbs around the cities may do very well. Central urban cores often get wrecked during factional disputes and they will not repaired for the next twenty years or so. Unpopular minorities who used to live in those areas are expelled.

"The Troubles" are highly localized. One hundred miles away, life may appear to go on as though nothing is happening. It is very deceptive. The troubles appear in waves which pass from one metro area to another.

Small groups with good organization and access to support from outside the immediate area will usually prevail.

60 posted on 10/31/2019 6:18:06 PM PDT by flamberge (The wheels keep turning)
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