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Reid warns Democrats not to underestimate Trump
The Hill ^ | October 13, 2019 | Kyle Ballock

Posted on 10/13/2019 5:41:23 AM PDT by billorites

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To: HotHunt

I’m not sure what you mean by McConnell using the Senate to support the president.
He can’t dictate to the House to stop the impeachment inquiry. He can’t deal with the impeachment until he has something to deal with. The House so far has flailed around trying to make a case that the “whistleblower” knows more than the unredacted transcript of the president’s phone call but is failing badly to do that.

If you’re inferring from McConnell’s lack of action before there is anything to take action on, that he is for impeachment and wants to hamstring the president, that is your opinion.


The Dems aren’t “flailing around.” They are running a carefully choreographed coup against POTUS. The Dem House isn’t even running an official impeachment proceeding. There is absolutely no reason McConnell couldn’t do something similar in the Senate in support of a POTUS of his own party who is currently being assaulted by a seditious coup.

You don’t find it a bit odd that so often supposedly the best course of action for the GOP is doing nothing? They sure are good at that.


21 posted on 10/13/2019 9:17:44 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: lodi90
".... the best course of action for the GOP is doing nothing?...."

When your enemy is digging themselves into a deep hole, it's best to stand back and watch them bury themselves.

I simply don't agree with your assertion.

22 posted on 10/13/2019 9:29:31 AM PDT by HotHunt (Been there. Done that.)
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To: HotHunt

When your enemy is digging themselves into a deep hole, it’s best to stand back and watch them bury themselves.

I simply don’t agree with your assertion.


Yep. That sure worked well for the GOP in the midterms. Didn’t it?

Horowitz is about to deliver a nothing burger and the Dems will do victory laps around the do-nothing GOP. At some point we have to accept the GOP is a willing participant in the coup against POTUS, too.


23 posted on 10/13/2019 9:32:21 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: lodi90
".... At some point we have to accept the GOP is a willing participant in the coup against POTUS, too...."

Speak for yourself. What's this "we" crap? Like we're some big club with secret decoder rings and all? Voting like mindless robots?

"We" don't have to accept your opinion that the GOP is a willing participant in the coup against the president. That's your opinion, not mine.

So I'll say it again for the last time. I DO NOT AGREE WITH YOUR ASSERTION.

Have a great day.

24 posted on 10/13/2019 9:43:08 AM PDT by HotHunt (Been there. Done that.)
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To: billorites
Too late Harry!

Also, thank you for making the Nuclear Option in the Senate possible, think boomerang.

25 posted on 10/13/2019 9:48:04 AM PDT by TruthWillWin
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To: HotHunt

Speak for yourself. What’s this “we” crap? Like we’re some big club with secret decoder rings and all? Voting like mindless robots?

“We” don’t have to accept your opinion that the GOP is a willing participant in the coup against the president. That’s your opinion, not mine.

So I’ll say it again for the last time. I DO NOT AGREE WITH YOUR ASSERTION.

Have a great day.


Did Senator Graham publicly threaten POTUS to not fire the hopelessly recused Sessions? Yep. Did Rosenstein then use his position as defacto AG to allow Mueller’s police state tactics against POTUS and his supporters? Affirmative again.

These are historical facts. The GOP has assisted in the coup against POTUS and that certainly has nothing to do with me.

And you have a great day too!


26 posted on 10/13/2019 1:50:23 PM PDT by lodi90
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I'm not sure where to even start but I'll try.

First, you lambast Mitch McConnell for being covertly for impeaching Trump because he's not doing something right now. But you give no evidence to back up your opinion other than he's not doing something. Right now, the Senate is not even in session and hasn't been for two weeks and McConnell is home recovering from a broken shoulder.

Then you switch to the line that the entire GOP is for Trump's impeachment like the democRATS are but again, you provide no evidence of that other than your assertion that they are not doing something right now.

So now you have switched to just a single senator, Graham, and cite something he said two years ago. Just three days ago, he warned House democRATS that impeachment is "dead on arrival", his own words, in the Senate. Impeachment based on the Mueller Report, DOA. Impeachment based on the Ukraine phone call, DOA. The Senate will not remove him from office, he says. Even he can see that the House is conducting this circus in a secret fashion that doesn't withstand scrutiny.

He is also on the record saying he plans to ask other Senate Republicans to sign a letter to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, saying Senate Republicans do not believe the transcript of the phone call between President Trump and the Ukranian President is an impeachable offense.

And none of that Rosenstein, Mueller argument holds water now because it is a moot point. And that as you say yourself, "is historical fact".

So I doubt Lindsay Graham is the guy you should use to hang your hat on for proving your point. He is in Trump's corner right now.

There may be some GOP Senators that would vote to convict if it ever got to the Senate. That royal flake, Jeff Flake, says there are 35 Senators who will vote to convict. Oh, but I forgot. He turned tail and quit when he realized he wasn't going to win his reelection. Maybe Romney, maybe Murkowski, maybe Sasse, maybe a couple more like Snowe. But your assertion was that the entire GOP is for his impeachment. That simply is not true.

And finally you claim none of this "certainly has nothing to do with 'me' ", meaning you. Either take responsibility for your opinion, assertions, accusations, or whatever you want to call them, or don't but you can't have it both ways.

Personally, I doubt whether the House will impeach Trump. They are in disarray right now. Schiffty has lied multiple times about his involvement with the so-called "whistleblower". He plain made-up the wording of the phone call and lied about it in the hearing. This is the Kavanaugh hearings all over again, just different players and a different target, Trump.

I mean, who would believe a "whistleblower" who is a partisan democRAT in all regards, who's worked directly for one of the democRAT presidential candidates, who got assistance from Shiffty's staff to write the complaint, didn't hear the phone call first-hand and only heard hearsay, gossip and rumors from others by hanging around the CIA water cooler in the hallway, and won't testify openly but in a pre-written letter so there can be no rebuttal and claims to be getting death threats when he remains anonymous? The whistleblower complaint form was changed in August (how convenient) to allow second and third party hearsay instead of first hand knowledge. And his complaint is vastly different from the transcript Trump released. None of what they are doing is holding water so far.

If the House does vote articles of impeachment against Trump, it will stop in the Senate, his poll numbers will rise, fundraising will go through the roof and he will handily win reelection in 2020.

I'm done. I have had pneumonia for two weeks now and spent three days in the VA hospital this last week and don't feel playing any more games. Good night.

27 posted on 10/13/2019 4:25:14 PM PDT by HotHunt (Been there. Done that.)
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