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California Officials declare Ham Radio no longer a benefit
Off Grid Survival News ^ | October 10, 2019 | Off Grid Surival

Posted on 10/11/2019 6:36:35 AM PDT by AU72

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To: Political Junkie Too

We had a huge slide in OSO in WA State.

The county spent huge money. Massive money, on a digital system. Purchased by a corrupt country EMS official.

It didn’t work, and not every agency could talk to every other.

How’d they get it done?

RACES. Yep, hams.


81 posted on 10/11/2019 8:50:54 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: dfwgator

Nonsense. The NSA may “attempt” to monitor VHF communications that it intercepts... The problem is that most of what it intercepts will be unintelligible garbage. Unlike cell phone communication that is dependent on tappable communication points to relay the signal, VHF radio is supremely suitable to short-distance tactical communication. Even with ad hoc encryption, the resources required to decipher and understand the intent of such signals would very quickly overwhelm the NSA’s available resources.

This is the reason that Amateur Radio has fallen out of favor with the deep state apparatchiks. It’s simply impossible to “hoover up” all of the radio traffic and sort it out... First you have to be where you can receive the signal. That eliminates any chance of 100% monitoring.


82 posted on 10/11/2019 8:56:45 AM PDT by Hugh the Scot (I won`t be wronged. I won`t be insulted. I won`t be laid a hand on. - John Bernard Books)
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To: AU72

Crazifornia should be mocked and derided endlessly for being the bedrock of insanity!


83 posted on 10/11/2019 8:59:54 AM PDT by subterfuge (RIP T.P.)
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To: Openurmind
and the FCC should consider opening up a few of the “long range” frequencies for general public use.

They always have been "open to the public".

It's not that hard, just get a ham license.

Parts of what you will learn when you study for your license are what frequencies and bands you can use, how much power, etc.

Without this knowledge, you can, and probably would create havoc.

84 posted on 10/11/2019 9:01:36 AM PDT by Mogger
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To: higgmeister

Even if the FCC agreed to open up a thin slice of one of these bands, the good old boys would scream and holler because they think these bands and frequencies all belong to them, and that no one is allowed to use them unless they submit to the ownership and pay their dues to the club first.


85 posted on 10/11/2019 9:04:20 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Mogger

Just as you probably suspected, Tech Control, 307.


86 posted on 10/11/2019 9:04:33 AM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: Openurmind

> good old boys

Do you even have a tech class license / or are you studying for one?


87 posted on 10/11/2019 9:07:26 AM PDT by old-ager
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To: Openurmind

You seem really bitter toward the “good old boy club”. Why is that?

I’m a licensed radio amateur, with a bit of a libertarian streak (I hate the very idea of having to petition the government for permission to do as I please), yet I recognize the value of limiting access to some of the radio communication spectrum to those who can show both competence in it’s use and the self-discipline to not violate the privileges of others use.

Spend 5 minutes on CB channel 6 and you’ll see exactly what every slice of the radio spectrum would be like if the “good old boy club” didn’t restrict participation.

Traffic lights are a good thing, even when we’re in a hurry.


88 posted on 10/11/2019 9:13:43 AM PDT by Hugh the Scot (I won`t be wronged. I won`t be insulted. I won`t be laid a hand on. - John Bernard Books)
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To: Sasparilla

This is not directed at you, but dont get too exited over 5W BaoFengs, the range is 3 miles on a good day. Even with line of sight and a separate killer directional antenna dont look for much more.

Also don’t expect to just pack em away and fire them up and communicate in SHTF if you haven’t set them up and done some kind of practicing. It’s not CB where you just dial around a few channels. And they are not that easy to program even if you have the internet up to reference.

Got my General a few months ago . . .


89 posted on 10/11/2019 9:19:32 AM PDT by freedomlover
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To: Mogger

And this havoc would be limited and contained in one thin slice just as it is with Citizen Band now. Limit the radios to only be capable of using this thin slice and the side bands within it just like Citizens Band is now. With side band there would not actually need to be that many frequencies allotted.

Can’t give up just one thin slice of a truly efficient frequency band?


90 posted on 10/11/2019 9:19:58 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Hugh the Scot

You don’t know that. I do.


91 posted on 10/11/2019 9:21:58 AM PDT by CodeToad ( Hating on Trump is hating on me and Americans!)
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To: madison10

“California has gone full Communist.“

Plainly.

BTW, in Europe, AM radio is dead (most towers are gone), and FM is dying. Norway’s going digital only.


92 posted on 10/11/2019 9:30:15 AM PDT by polymuser (It's discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and how few by deceit. Noel Coward)
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To: old-ager

And this is exactly the club membership “control” I am talking about, If you don’t have a license, or have not applied for a license, you are forbidden to even discuss the topic or question the club. It’s like saying no one understands how to or can talk about fishing until they take a fishing class and buy a fishing license. :)


93 posted on 10/11/2019 9:34:44 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: AU72

“...Ham radio obsolete during an emergency.”

The truth is exactly opposite.

California government is rapidly becoming a domestic enemy of the U.S.


94 posted on 10/11/2019 9:36:08 AM PDT by polymuser (It's discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and how few by deceit. Noel Coward)
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To: CodeToad

Horseshit. As usual.


95 posted on 10/11/2019 9:42:17 AM PDT by Hugh the Scot (I won`t be wronged. I won`t be insulted. I won`t be laid a hand on. - John Bernard Books)
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To: null and void

And the ARRL just yawns and goes back to sleep.


96 posted on 10/11/2019 9:42:21 AM PDT by paulcissa (Politicians want you unarmed so they can kill you.)
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To: Openurmind

> If you don’t have a license, or have not applied for a license, you are forbidden to even discuss the topic or question the club

Let me just say kindly that I think you are full of $hit.

People are engaging you here with actual information; you’re just ranting. You don’t seem to have any idea of the history of radio transmitter usage nor ways it is coordinated.

The fact is that you can buy any transceiver and an antenna (if you know what that is) and start transmitting. I don’t know what will happen to you, but I will be that you will feel like a fool rather quickly.

You can go buy an FRS transceiver and just start talking any time. That’s what those are for, starting at about $9 each.


97 posted on 10/11/2019 9:43:17 AM PDT by old-ager
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To: Hugh the Scot

Just asking them to consider giving up a small part of the huge avenue to allow a bicycle lane. Look at 10 meter, it is already screwed and havoc with general illegal use, yet the FCC and the radio clubs just won’t let go of that legal thumb on it. That legal thumb is just an ignored formality at this point anyhow with that band.


98 posted on 10/11/2019 9:46:00 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: CarolinaPeach

I am licensed. My wife having no knowledge took the class taught by our club and passed with flying colors. Go for it!


99 posted on 10/11/2019 9:56:13 AM PDT by freebird5850 (Trust Republicans Under My Presindency)
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To: old-ager

I understand radio just fine.


100 posted on 10/11/2019 9:59:56 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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