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As plantations talk more honestly about slavery, some visitors are pushing back
Washington Post ^ | September 8, 2019 | Hannah Knowles

Posted on 09/08/2019 3:22:20 PM PDT by Drew68

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To: GOPJ

If Monticello must be attributed to the Africans that built it, where are the Monticellos of Africa?


61 posted on 09/08/2019 5:28:20 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: wardaddy

So they are indeed lucky their ancestors was brought over in bondage because they are now here

I have yet to see one return since it’s so bad here

This historical emphasis on white misdeeds is political power being forced on folks nothing more
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I don’t think we have been stating this correctly. I think the best way to look at this is blacks in this country the slavery ancestry should be thankful to be here and not in Africa. That said they should also be thankful that they were not the ones brought over in captivity but rather their ancestors were. However one can still say , no are not lucky to have been brought over here in captivity there was nothing good about it.


62 posted on 09/08/2019 5:30:35 PM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Vote for President Trump in 2020 or end up equally miserable, no rights, and eating zoo animals)
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To: GOPJ

+1.


63 posted on 09/08/2019 5:37:51 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: Drew68
Real American slaves talk about it.
64 posted on 09/08/2019 5:42:05 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: Don W
The first slaves in the Americas were NOT black folk.

No. They were Aztecs and Native Americans.

The Irish and Scots followed much later.

65 posted on 09/08/2019 5:47:10 PM PDT by lizma2
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To: Drew68

So some stupid people go to a historical site and are offended when they encounter history


66 posted on 09/08/2019 5:48:03 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the cloudsi)
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To: lizma2

“No. They were Aztecs and Native Americans.
The Irish and Scots followed much later.”

How many of those folks were freed from slavery by the Emancipation proclamation or the XIII Amendment.


67 posted on 09/08/2019 5:51:24 PM PDT by Bull Snipe
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To: DrPretorius

“One could conclude that blacks just don’t seem to have any natural curiosity or intellectual interest in anything like most normal people. But that would be rayciss...”

No, that would just be retarded, but you think because this is FR that we would be like “Yup! They totally dont have “natural curiosity or intellectual interest in anything like most normal people”?


68 posted on 09/08/2019 5:58:03 PM PDT by VanDeKoik ( In heap big peace pipe)
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To: max americana
Back in my college days, I drove taxi to pay expenses. I quickly learned to let the customers steer the conversation (if they wanted one) or to shut up (if they didn't). You got better tips that way.

A black gal who lived at a seedy hotel and worked go-go bars in town would tell me racial jokes I would get banned for repeating. She was sweet and a great tipper and would often ask for me by name. All because I let her steer the conversations and mostly just listened.

69 posted on 09/08/2019 6:01:05 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: Drew68

The plants didn’t just pop up without someone tending them.

My ancestors had a handful of slaves who had been passed down. GG-grandma said she was glad they were set free because they were like little helpless babies needing constant care. She also said they and the family ate out of the same bean pot.


70 posted on 09/08/2019 6:02:31 PM PDT by bgill
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To: Drew68

I toured the Civil Rights Museum twenty years ago where they tried to make me feel bad for being white. I grew up poor so it didn’t take. Now I think blacks should be happy their ancestors got on the boat. Even Ali agreed.


71 posted on 09/08/2019 6:07:05 PM PDT by ebshumidors
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To: cyclotic

If it’s part of history, I don’t mind hearing it. If it’s a lecture, then that’s different.

I do remember there was some mention of the slaves at Monticello some 30 years ago when we were there. 10 years ago, they were having a naturalization ceremony so we couldn’t see everything in the house and nothing in the gardens. The tour was cut short nevermind we paid full price so I won’t be back.


72 posted on 09/08/2019 6:07:26 PM PDT by bgill
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To: cyclotic

If it’s part of history, I don’t mind hearing it. If it’s a lecture, then that’s different.

I do remember there was some mention of the slaves at Monticello some 30 years ago when we were there. 10 years ago, they were having a naturalization ceremony so we couldn’t see everything in the house and nothing in the gardens. The tour was cut short nevermind we paid full price so I won’t be back.


73 posted on 09/08/2019 6:07:28 PM PDT by bgill
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To: CincyRichieRich

So they are indeed lucky their ancestors was brought over in bondage because they are now here.

Which would be your choice. A free man in your own land, or a life time. as a slave, picking cotton in Mississippi.


74 posted on 09/08/2019 6:15:02 PM PDT by Bull Snipe
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To: Drew68

The WaPo is on the front line of white washing America’s history. May be the WaPo owners descendents, owned slaves and they are trying to protect themselves by condemning others. Those sneaky leftist.


75 posted on 09/08/2019 6:15:24 PM PDT by Carry me back (Cut the feds by 90%)
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To: Bull Snipe
Jefferson was in debt so he would not have been able to free all of his slaves--which is not to say that he would have done so if he had not been in debt.

One of Sally's children was named Madison Hemings. In 1870 he was living in Ohio. The census taker wrote in the margin next to his name: "This man is the son of Thomas Jefferson." Obviously that's what Madison had told him.

76 posted on 09/08/2019 6:16:16 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: livius

Well, aren’t you kind - I’m always glad when someone finds something I said worth repeating, no attribution needed......


77 posted on 09/08/2019 6:18:28 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Carry me back

I don’t think people are going to places like Monticello to hear about the slaves. They are going to see a place where one of our great founders lived, and may be how his servants served him. They can do without the tear jerking about the slaves.


78 posted on 09/08/2019 6:18:58 PM PDT by Carry me back (Cut the feds by 90%)
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To: Drew68

I’ve noticed American Blacks are famously disinterested in the role of Africans and Arabs in the slave trade.


79 posted on 09/08/2019 6:21:08 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: Verginius Rufus

In the 1830 census, Sally Hemming and her two sons, living near Charlottesville, were listed as white.


80 posted on 09/08/2019 6:24:08 PM PDT by Bull Snipe
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