IG Report just dropped (Comey violated policy, but will not prosecute)

DOJ ^ | 8/29/2019

[Pravious]

Thanks for your sensible post. Lots of folks going off half-cocked on this thread. My advice: Get a grip on your emotions, it isn’t event halftime yet.

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Here’s what I don’t think you’re considering (or AG Barr, for that matter). Every DAY... EVERY SINGLE DAY that millions of Americans see NO justice being handed out for outright sedition and criminal cover-ups of it in this country they are either getting more and more angry with, or more and more disillusioned with our system of “justice” - neither of which is at ALL healthy for a functioning society.

Yeah. Maybe in 2023 they’ll FINALLY nail one of these bastards on something, after being extra, extra, super careful that they’ve dotted all the i’s and crossed all the t’s. At that point, however, how many people are going to even care anymore - because ANY faith we would have had in our country will have been long gone by then.

And the evil ones STILL win.

[nikos1121]

No mention of the FISA?

[Bullpine]

This report was only about breaking the FBI policy. Not about FISA . Breaking the law and violating policy are two different matters. Policy is not Law.
Introduction
This report describes the investigation by the Department of Justice (DOJ or Department) Office of the Inspector General (OIG) into the creation, storage, and handling of certain memoranda (Memos) written by former Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) Director James B. Comey. Between January 6, 2017, and April 11, 2017, while Comey was Director of the FBI, he memorialized seven one-on-one interactions that he had with President-elect and President Donald J. Trump

[litehaus]

Paging all members of the ‘STAR CHAMBER’

Pick up the RED PHONE immediately

[lodi90]

Here’s what I don’t think you’re considering (or AG Barr, for that matter). Every DAY... EVERY SINGLE DAY that millions of Americans see NO justice being handed out for outright sedition and criminal cover-ups of it in this country they are either getting more and more angry with, or more and more disillusioned with our system of “justice” - neither of which is at ALL healthy for a functioning society.

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The GOP doesn’t care. What are conservative GOP base voters going to do about it? Vote for Democrats instead?

The GOPe are treating Trump voters no better than Dems treat blacks. The GOP is corrupt at its core and not reformable. How we deal with that ugly truth will determine the future of this country.

[shanover]

America is dead without the fundamental rule of law and equal justice. It’s funny and sad at the same time that the DOJ will do nothing but an organization like Judicial Watch easily highlights countless actions that should be prosecuted.

[Cboldt]

We still don't know who authorized Comey to disclose to the public that the FBI had an open counterintelligence investigation into the Trump campaign. See starting on page 31 of the report.

A shocking lack of curiosity on the part of the press and the public. Comey starts, "I have been authorized ... " but none of the people in Congress ask, and as far as I know, nobody in the press has asked.

[gaijin]

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[wardamneagle]

And why again were you fired Comey?

[Nothingburger]

I stand by my original comment. The majority of posters on this thread seem to be executing a maneuver often cited back in my Army days:

“When in trouble or in doubt. Run in circles, scream and shout.”

The report hasn’t been out half a day and so many people are weeping and wailing.

Defeatism, defeatism, defeatism ... Since y’all don’t know me except from my posts on these threads (if at all) I can tell you I’m about as far from a cockeyed optimist as it’s possible to get.

But I can tell you there’s no percentage in declaring you’re beaten before the game even starts.

[romanesq]

“Trust Sessions!

Q

The joke...”

is the #QAnon grifters will flip the “Trust Sessions” scam again.
Scamming LARPers gonna scam.

#FreeTheBoomers

[Mathews]

That first memo... Comey goes to see the then PE and tells him CNN has tapes of him involved in a “Golden Showers” incident in Russia. Classic move. Classic trade craft. Comey wanted to spring that on Trump just to see his reaction. Just to see his face.

Trump said he didn’t spend the night in Russia when he went for the Miss Universe Pageant in 2013. I wasn’t there, but the logistics of flying from the States to Russia, holding a Meet and Greet, going up to the room to shower before the pageant, going to the pageant, heading back to the room to change and then straight to the airport to fly back to the states had to have been pretty fluid. I’m also guessing he was with an entourage as well. When did he have time to engage in a full on sexcapade?

[wastoute]

Does anybody rational believe a guy who travels with his own bottle of Purell is gonna spend time cavorting with Russian Hookers?

[Cboldt]

-- When there are no consequences to violating a policy, it really isn't a policy. --

Oh but there are and were consequences. Not to say the consequences are proportional to the offense, that is of course the goal but rarely if ever achieved.

Comey was fired. He is subjected to disgrace by half the country, and hero status by the other half.

Fact of the matter is our govenment is controlled by bad people.

[George Rand]

Respectable position, and I’d say you make valid points, particularly when you say it’s not a crime to “non-violently” overthrow the government.

I would levy an argument to your point, however, and advocate that had the situation been reversed - that say Obama had won an election and a Bush official had leaked information to the press, that there would have been a full blitzkrieg media campaign to ensure that individual was charged to the full extent of the law.
This is where I have a serious problem with this outcome, because deep down in my gut I believe anyone that wasn’t DNC/Globalist affiliated would have been swinging for a tree.

What are your thoughts?

[xenia]

We quickly forget. Thanx.

[wastoute]

You do realize that by the hour it is becoming painfully obvious that “if we are going to win in the final half” we are actually going to have to get on the field?

[Cboldt]

-- Remember the matter of the FISA warrants is still in process and there were clear violations of the law involved. --

50 USC 1809 - FISA Criminal Penalties

(b) Defense

It is a defense to a prosecution under subsection (a) that the defendant was a law enforcement or investigative officer engaged in the course of his official duties and the electronic surveillance was authorized by and conducted pursuant to a search warrant or court order of a court of competent jurisdiction.

[jjotto]

Yep. The whole point of FISA courts is that they don’t have to meet the same standard of ‘reasonable suspicion’ of regular courts. If there was reasonable suspicion of a crime, it would be handled in regular courts.

[Nothingburger]

Believe me, I have considered your point, FRiend Pravious. Considered it every day, multiple times a day.

You don’t win a war by having bigger emotions than the other side. That’s the game the Left plays and the result is that every policy they advocate is an abject failure. That’s why our inner cities are crumbling, as you well know.

And also believe me on this point — it may take what I delicately refer to as “extra-constitutional methods” to suppress the Marxist left once and for all. I am entirely at peace with this prospect, just so long as we win.

But before we resort to such extreme measures, the Left must be prevented from doing any more harm. If that means simply booting them out of public office and letting them off the hook criminally, I’m willing to accept that outcome if no other outcome is possible.

It’s not what I would want, but as adults, we surely realize that we don’t often get everything we want.

At the other extreme, I would certainly favor using the criminal justice system in a decapitation strike against the Left that would include everyone from Pelosi and Schumer down to a rabble of Antifa thugs.

It’s all a matter of timing. Timing is everything in politics. And may I suggest that it’s still rather early in what promises to be a long game indeed.