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Yes Mr. President, Cut the Payroll Tax
National Review ^ | 08/23/2019 | Cesar Conda

Posted on 08/23/2019 9:38:46 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 08/23/2019 9:38:46 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Get rid of it completely and start over with the 36 and under millennials.


2 posted on 08/23/2019 9:42:52 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Is this the FICA deduction that I see on every paycheck?
Today is payday. FICA deduction is 5.7% of my earnings.


3 posted on 08/23/2019 9:44:49 AM PDT by Rio
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To: DIRTYSECRET
Get rid of it completely and start over with the 36 and under millennials.

And do what with the 62 and older Baby Boomers?

4 posted on 08/23/2019 9:46:44 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Rio

> FICA deduction is 5.7% of my earnings.

About double that, actually, because your employer has to match it.


5 posted on 08/23/2019 9:48:07 AM PDT by old-ager
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To: DoodleDawg

Let us rot! Never mind how much we’ve paid in! It’s a Ponzi!


6 posted on 08/23/2019 9:48:52 AM PDT by old-ager
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RE: Is this the FICA deduction that I see on every paycheck?

Yes it is. The Federal Insurance Contributions Act (FICA) AKA Payroll tax, is the federal law requiring employers to withhold three separate taxes from the wages they pay their employees.

FICA is comprised of the following taxes:

1) 6.2 percent Social Security tax;

2) 1.45 percent Medicare tax (the “regular” Medicare tax); and;

3) Since 2013, a 0.9 percent Medicare surtax when the employee earns over $200,000.


7 posted on 08/23/2019 9:50:05 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: old-ager

62 and older baby boomers. Take it out of the general fund. Well-to-do get no more than they put in + that one or 2% interest. It will take 50 years for the last of the 37 year-olds to die. Aged 37 to 62? I say pay them off somehow.


8 posted on 08/23/2019 9:52:46 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: DoodleDawg

I would scale it. Younger workers pay a higher rate and it scales downward based on years paid in. I would also do this with municipal employees.


9 posted on 08/23/2019 9:53:03 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Trump is President and CEO of America, Inc.)
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To: SeekAndFind

No. Don’t add to the deficit and debt.


10 posted on 08/23/2019 10:01:13 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: SeekAndFind

Social Security is unconstitutional. End it. Stop taking the taxes, stop sending the checks. If Congress wants to do something to ease the pain — and can do it within constitutional limits — that’s fine. Just don’t raise my taxes to do it.


11 posted on 08/23/2019 10:08:44 AM PDT by GodAndCountryFirst
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"No. Don’t add to the deficit and debt."

Wow, espousing 20th Century conservatism in the Age of Trump? Off to the reeducation camp you go! (sarcasm)

12 posted on 08/23/2019 10:11:08 AM PDT by buckalfa (Earth First ! We Will Strip Mine The Other Planets Later !)
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To: SeekAndFind

Because you may not know. The payroll tax is Social Security and Medicare. Its not a tax at all. Payroll tax is just 1984 style double speak for two underfunded insurance schemes run by the federal government. There is no reason to change the funding of these two schemes. Everyone pays in. The question is why do people get to take out more than they put in. Well if you live to 90, ok. But there are lots of people who take out more before they even turn 75.

Social Security is going to be ok. It will go red when the baby boomers hit maximum retirement in 15 years. But it quickly goes back into the black. And it could be improved right now by increasing the retirement age by one year.

Medicare is the issue. Its the only issue. We need to lower costs. We need to reduce expenditures until medicare becomes close to solvent.


13 posted on 08/23/2019 10:19:23 AM PDT by poinq
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Everyone pays in. The question is why do people get to take out more than they put in.

I completely agree with your point about why people get more than they contribute. That said, not everybody pays in. My MIL never worked a day in her life. She drew survivor benefits of $1500 a month from my FIL's SSN after he passed. She lived another 16 years after he passed. $288K for just one person who didn't contribute a dime, and I know for a fact that amount's WAY beyond what my FIL contributed. There are millions of others in similar situations.

14 posted on 08/23/2019 10:26:15 AM PDT by Hoffer Rand (God be greater than the worries in my life, be stronger than the weakness in my mind, be magnified.)
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To: Wuli
What difference does it make? Less or more taxes, every past year in memory, the U.S. Treasury scores record revenues.

Regardless of these record intakes, Congress always manages to outspend whatever is taken in, usually by an obscene amount. This, then, requires Congress to raise the debt ceiling in order to pay for its profligate spending.

And still, the Democrat politicians cry for more taxes to cure this yearly imbalance.

Since the Congress habitually raises the debt ceiling, regardless of the amount of revenue acquired or taxes collected, why do we have to pay taxes at all? With no income tax, the government will roll along just fine, increasing the debt as fast or slowly as it pleases - without all the absurd posturing as to who has to pony up their 'fair share.'

15 posted on 08/23/2019 10:33:25 AM PDT by Thommas (The snout of the camel is in the tent..)
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To: SeekAndFind

NO!!! Make “everyone” who earns even a single $ pay at least 10% so that everyone shares in the pain!!!


16 posted on 08/23/2019 10:40:58 AM PDT by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than having to WORK like the rest of US:-))
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Agree, get rid of it completely or leave it alone and do a targeted tax cut towards the middle class. Obama’s payroll tax cut was a Byzantium disaster.


17 posted on 08/23/2019 10:50:34 AM PDT by sarge83
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To: buckalfa

Wow, thinking 20th century “conservatives” gave a damn about debt and deficits.


18 posted on 08/23/2019 10:54:51 AM PDT by Henry Hnyellar
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RE: NO!!! Make “everyone” who earns even a single $ pay at least 10% so that everyone shares in the pain!!!

Herman Cain wanted 9% ( remember his 9-9-9 plan? )


19 posted on 08/23/2019 11:09:38 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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Cutting taxes is good, but cutting SPENDING is CRUCIAL!!!!


20 posted on 08/23/2019 11:15:54 AM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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