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Pentagon conducts 1st test of previously banned missile
Dayton24/7 ^ | August 19, 2019 | ROBERT BURNS and LOLITA C. BALDOR (Associated Press)

Posted on 08/19/2019 2:21:45 PM PDT by BeauBo

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To: ASOC

The missile that forced the Soviets into the INF treaty


21 posted on 08/19/2019 4:19:49 PM PDT by Hugh the Scot (I won`t be wronged. I won`t be insulted. I won`t be laid a hand on. - John Bernard Books)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
I’d call it “ Tommy the Destroyer”...

That might offend the Left-wing surrender monkeys in Britain...

;^)

22 posted on 08/19/2019 4:39:50 PM PDT by Who is John Galt? ("He therefore who may resist, must be allowed to strike.")
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

We have Apache and Kiowa helicopters. Our Paratroopers supposedly shout, “Geronimo!” as they step out of the planes. How many other enemies do we honor in such a fashion?


23 posted on 08/19/2019 4:48:51 PM PDT by jmcenanly ("The more corrupt the state, the more laws." Tacitus, Publius Cornelius)
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To: BeauBo

Some technology may get banned, but, the knowledge and plans on how to reactive it doesn’t.


24 posted on 08/19/2019 4:56:50 PM PDT by adorno
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To: BeauBo
They should make the missile launcher look exactly like a semi tractor trailer to be hauled anywhere by any semi tractor.

If we did that good luck to China and Russia on finding them at all among the millions that exist already.

25 posted on 08/19/2019 6:25:44 PM PDT by wildcard_redneck (Freeper formerly known as WMarshal.......)
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To: jmcenanly

Kiowa is gone dude. Sorry. OH-58 retired. All national guard Apache got pulled to activate duty.


26 posted on 08/19/2019 7:13:49 PM PDT by wgmalabama (Mittens is the new Juan. Go away mittens)
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To: BeauBo

“” “” “no need to pretend someone else is violating it”

The Russians were violating it big time.”” “”

Or it is that was said.


27 posted on 08/19/2019 7:26:01 PM PDT by NorseViking
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To: cpdiii

“” “” Actually it was a very good treaty that Russia violated and destroyed by their actions and not ours. “” “”

That is not exactly true. The US was seeking an excuse to withdraw for quite some time and the main reason is not to be restricted by the treaty to which China is not a part of.

Another point is that according to Russian intelligence US is in violation of the treaty since about 2004 using planned ABM infrastructure in Europe as a cover for deploying INF.

It is very well might be true considering the technology used for ABMs. It basically demands the same support equipment as any standard US naval missile and for that reason an ABM site only needs ordnance replaced to become an INF base.

Inderect evidence to this theory is a recent test of US INF which for some reason turned to be a land variant of Tomahawk missile.


28 posted on 08/19/2019 7:45:19 PM PDT by NorseViking
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To: BeauBo
I think t US government should make trail-able tomahawks available for citizens to go rving with. That should scare the crap out of Putin and the Chinese.
29 posted on 08/19/2019 9:18:51 PM PDT by Herakles (Diversity is applied Marxism!)
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To: DesertRhino

Which sophistry are you talking about?
You think we didn’t know others were developing such missiles and that we knew that we also needed to keep up “behind the scenes” to keep from committing suicide by neglect?


30 posted on 08/20/2019 2:58:02 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: wildcard_redneck

“They should make the missile launcher look exactly like a semi tractor trailer to be hauled anywhere by any semi tractor.”

The communist Chinese have missiles inside standard shipping containers.


31 posted on 08/20/2019 7:39:03 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: wildcard_redneck
"They should make the missile launcher look exactly like a semi tractor trailer to be hauled anywhere by any semi tractor."

Looks like that is just what they did.

They used the MK-41 launcher, already in service, and mounted a Tomahawk missile on it. All you need to do is put sides and a roof on it, to camouflage it as a standard shipping container. We can be reasonably sure they have prepared that.


32 posted on 08/20/2019 9:25:02 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: cpdiii
Actually it was a very good treaty that Russia violated and destroyed by their actions and not ours.

It was a good treaty when these US and Russia were the only kids on the block. But with states like China and India growing up, the treaty hurts more than it helps if every upcoming nation isn't forced into it as well.

Also, Russia cheated anyway.
33 posted on 08/21/2019 9:18:46 PM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: DesertRhino

The Russians were clearly violating for many years and the NATO members all agreed.

They simply played into our hands vis a vis China.


34 posted on 08/21/2019 9:26:30 PM PDT by rbmillerjr
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