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Four Questions as Hong Kong Rises to Protest China's Communists (Will it be Tien An Men Redux?)
PJ Media ^ | 08/13/2019 | Bryan Preston

Posted on 08/13/2019 7:46:28 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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Protesters carry U.S. flags and placards during a protest march in Hong Kong, Sunday, July 28, 2019.
1 posted on 08/13/2019 7:46:28 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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The USA is run by Free Traitors™ who will sell HK out in NY minute if the Chinese handlers tell them to..


2 posted on 08/13/2019 7:49:33 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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Protesters stage a sit-in rally at the arrival hall of the Hong Kong International Airport in Hong Kong, China on Aug. 13, 2019

3 posted on 08/13/2019 7:49:39 AM PDT by KC_Lion
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No, it won’t be like Tienanmen Square.
Large numbers of Hong Kongers will just wake up in a bunk next to a Uighur in some detention camp in the Gobi Desert.


4 posted on 08/13/2019 7:52:28 AM PDT by VanShuyten (Er"...that all the donkeys were dead. I know nothing as to the fate of the less valuable animals.")
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OK, what can the USA do at this time?

China declaring the protests an act of terror could lead to military action by Beijing. China already has 6,000 to 10,000 People’s Liberation Army troops stationed next to Hong Kong, according to The Wall Street Journal.

Market participants say that heightened tensions or a bloody clash could roil global markets because Hong Kong is seen as a financial hub and problems in the region could also stall any chance of a near-term Sino-American trade resolution.

Hong Kong is a major financial center and its disruption could have implications for markets in Asia as well as spillover to Europe and the U.S. whether we like it or not. There are over 1,500 U.S. companies with a presence in Hong Kong.

Also, the Chinese media have already accused the U.S. of being behind the protests — or at least encouraging them — tying the unrest in Hong Kong to the greater trade dispute with the U.S.

Ultimately, a harsh response to protesters by China’s PLA, including loss of life, could make it unpalatable for the Trump administration to forge a grand trade deal.

Even if Trump were willing to overlook a violent crackdown, it isn’t clear that Congress would.


5 posted on 08/13/2019 7:55:34 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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The USA could raise tariff to 25% on China if they invade. We could station a CVBG off the coast of HK now. But we can’t. Why? Because Free Traitors™ would have conniption.


6 posted on 08/13/2019 7:58:34 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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RE: We could station a CVBG off the coast of HK

And what would that do with China? A Military confrontation is good?


7 posted on 08/13/2019 7:59:54 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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Ultimately, a harsh response to protesters by China’s PLA, including loss of life, could make it unpalatable for the Trump administration to forge a grand trade deal.

Grande? LOL. "No deal" would be the BEST outcome from a terrible situation.

8 posted on 08/13/2019 7:59:54 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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So, you propose that the trade negotiations currently in place simply stop and everyone goes home and simply STOP all trade with China?


9 posted on 08/13/2019 8:01:45 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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Protesters carry U.S. flags and placards during a protest march in Hong Kong

Bad plan.

10 posted on 08/13/2019 8:02:05 AM PDT by Jim Noble (There is nothing racist in stating plainly what most people already know)
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And what would that do with China? A Military confrontation is good?

This is what would have happened Pre Nixon. The balless globalist have made a sane response impossible. FU globalists. You are all real POS's. Your greed is turning the world into a living hell.

11 posted on 08/13/2019 8:02:21 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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We can’t stop protesters from doing what they’re doing.

America’s MERE EXISTENCE and RELATIVE FREEDOM has become a symbol for the protesters.

China will HATE what we stand for and WILL claim that we are behind this protest to destabilize their government whether we like it or not.


12 posted on 08/13/2019 8:03:46 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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RE: This is what would have happened Pre Nixon.

So, you were for our involvement in the Vietnam War then.


13 posted on 08/13/2019 8:05:10 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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So, you propose that the trade negotiations currently in place simply stop and everyone goes home and simply STOP all trade with China?

Yes to the first part, trade negotiations should stop and a 25% tariff put on ChiComs import now! A tariff doesn't STOP trade, an embargo STOPS trade. But you knew that( I think so but you are real winner ) and chose to use false hyperbolic language in your ham handed use of scare tactics which typical of Free Traitors™.

14 posted on 08/13/2019 8:07:34 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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So, you were for our involvement in the Vietnam War then.

Vietnam was different. The ChiComs are trying to usurp us, our industry and technology with the help of Free Traitors™. The VC just wanted round eye to go home.

15 posted on 08/13/2019 8:09:39 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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We can’t stop protesters from doing what they’re doing

I did not even hint that we should. I merely said that provoking China in this particular way was a Bad Plan™.

What will happen to these protesters is predictable and sad, but we were not a party to the leases between the UK and China, we did not participate in the negotiations that led to the handover of Hong Kong Island, Kowloon, and the New Territories to China and we did not promise anyone anything before or after July 1, 1997.

16 posted on 08/13/2019 8:17:15 AM PDT by Jim Noble (There is nothing racist in stating plainly what most people already know)
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[Ultimately, a harsh response to protesters by China’s PLA, including loss of life, could make it unpalatable for the Trump administration to forge a grand trade deal.

Even if Trump were willing to overlook a violent crackdown, it isn’t clear that Congress would.]


A massacre would lead to a trade embargo. In 1989, China had been a Cold War ally for just over a decade. We have no illusions about today’s China. But the very threat of an embargo is why, unless Xi faces the possibility of losing power, a massacre won’t occur. Now, he could miscalculate the West’s response and do it anyway. So there’s really no telling at this point.


17 posted on 08/13/2019 8:31:31 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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[No, it won’t be like Tienanmen Square.
Large numbers of Hong Kongers will just wake up in a bunk next to a Uighur in some detention camp in the Gobi Desert.]


The difference is that Tiananmen threatened the regime’s grip on power. The Hong Kong demonstrations, which are occurring far from the seat of power (i.e. Beijing) in China, don’t. From a practical standpoint, the current demonstrations are more an annoyance to the regime than anything else.


18 posted on 08/13/2019 8:37:24 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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It is important to note that the Tiananmen Square Massacre happened just before the fall of the Berlin Wall and the collapse of communism in Eastern Europe and the Soviet Union. The Chinese communists are well aware of the unintended momentum their crackdown gave to other peoples in the world.


19 posted on 08/13/2019 8:37:56 AM PDT by Chad_the_Impaler
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Mao: Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun.

How many Guns to the residents of Hong Kong own?


20 posted on 08/13/2019 8:40:39 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Kill a Commie for your Mommy.)
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