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Bernie Believes Raising Your Taxes Will Save You Money In The Long Run
Townhall.com ^ | July 28, 2019 | Beth Bauman

Posted on 07/28/2019 7:10:27 PM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin

You first, Bernie.


21 posted on 07/29/2019 2:51:52 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: Kaslin

Because the gubbermint is so much more efficient and economical with your money....


22 posted on 07/29/2019 4:05:50 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: Kaslin
"I do believe, in a progressive way, people will have to pay taxes. The wealthy will, obviously, pay the lion's share of those taxes. But, at the end of the day, the vast majority of the American people will pay substantially less for health care that they now receive because we're going to do away with hundreds of millions of dollars of administration waste...

It's well known how efficient government bureaucracies are.

23 posted on 07/29/2019 4:20:21 AM PDT by Flick Lives (MSM, the Enemy of the People since 1898)
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To: Kaslin

Maybe it’s the dementia speaking... otherwise this old fool is simply insane.


24 posted on 07/29/2019 5:45:53 AM PDT by ScottinVA (The most urgent gathering threat to America: the Democrat Party)
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To: Kaslin
...we're going to do away with hundreds of millions of dollars of administration waste...

Because that's the way ALL government programs roll...

25 posted on 07/29/2019 5:58:05 AM PDT by MortMan (Americans are a people increasingly separated by our connectivity.)
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To: Kaslin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEmKe6KxhcM


26 posted on 07/29/2019 6:00:37 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (There's a stairway to heaven, but there's a highway to hell.)
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To: Kaslin

“...because we’re going to do away with hundreds of millions of dollars of administration waste, we’re going to do away with the incredible profiteering of the insurance companies and the drug companies,” Sanders said.”

This is the rationale that socialists always use, but it’s based on a blatant lie and a logical fallacy.

The blatant lie is that the government could ever be expected to reduce administrative waste - all human experience shows the opposite to be true.

The logical fallacy here is a little more subtle, and easily foisted upon the ill-informed, because it is based on a partial truth. Big Pharma and the Big Health insurance companies ARE in fact price gouging - and ending those monopolies should definitely be a part of any solution.

However, socialists routinely introduce a false cause fallacy at this point in their argument, by taking for granted that monopolies are caused by lack of government regulation. In fact, the opposite is true. Monopolies are far less likely to occur in an unfettered economy with robust competition. Monopolies are most likely to form when large corporations are able to use regulatory hurdles and restrictions to legally block competition. Hence, Big Government is the very mechanism by which Big Pharma and Big Health Insurance providers secure their monopolies. Without Big Government, how would wealthy corporations enforce their monopolies? Who would they bribe (lobby) to pass laws and regulations that create obstacles for their competition?

The socialists’ dirtiest secret - the elephant in the room - is this myth that government regulatory policy exists to protect consumers from wealthy corporations - nothing could be farther from the truth. Sure, that’s the ostensible reason for regulations. That’s the justification used to get lawmakers elected and re-elected. But the real truth is that Washington DC is nothing but a one-stop-shop for bribery (lobbying).

DC lawmakers earn votes by serving their constituents, but they get rich by serving their real masters on K Street.

Too cynical? I don’t think so. There are good Senators and Congressmen in DC, who serve only their constituents. But for the most part they are bought and paid for by rich corporations, trade unions, or industrial cartels, and it’s not even illegal if it’s done through the proper channels.

That’s what Washington DC has become - a swampy place where the rich and powerful can come to be guided through the process of legally purchasing access to lawmakers. You have your fancy hotels and restaurants, you have your international banks to handle all the offshore account transactions, you have your lobby firms full of lawyers to make sure laws aren’t skirted, and right down the street you have Congress to tweak the laws if need be. All you need is a big enough bank account and voila! Instant monopoly!

Bernie Sanders may actually believe what he is saying (that nationalizing health care would provide better health care for less $$$) - in which case he is simply naive. More likely, he doesn’t give a crap about affordable health care - he knows full well the federal government is a gravy train for corrupt politicians and he just wants to climb aboard (again).


27 posted on 07/29/2019 6:24:27 AM PDT by enumerated
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To: Kaslin

I moved monies from my checking to savings, afterwards, I had less in my checking... very odd.


28 posted on 07/29/2019 6:37:02 AM PDT by Brown Bag Special (Trust but VERIFY)
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To: Kaslin

If you like your plan, you can keep your plan. Where have I heard promises about how the Democrat party will “fix “healthcare and lower premiums lower expenses etc. every time they’ve tried to fix this issue they have made it worse, look how bad the VA was for many many years with long weights, top-heavy administration and putting patient care last not first.


29 posted on 07/29/2019 6:40:02 AM PDT by matt04
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To: Kaslin

He should become a salesman for Verizon Fios.


30 posted on 07/29/2019 6:43:19 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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To: grey_whiskers

All of that was totally destroyed by RAT tax policies ages ago.
They just couldn’t stand the idea that perhaps someone out of the “unwashed masses” might actually achieve “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness” by a lifetime of hard work.
No. They had to rob the individual of it so that others wouldn’t follow suit and maybe realize they didn’t need the government for economic survival. Government independence is an anathema to them. Greed is a terrible vice.


31 posted on 07/29/2019 6:53:50 AM PDT by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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To: Kaslin

He’s got a lot of Bernie Madoff in him.


32 posted on 07/29/2019 7:50:23 AM PDT by Track9
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To: FirstFlaBn

But we’d all save more money by switching to GEICO :)


33 posted on 07/29/2019 8:26:38 AM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (Political Science degrees, so easy Obama has one.)
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To: grey_whiskers

That’s the reality of BIG[ger] govt. And only going to get worse as it (illegal, unconstitutionally) grows


34 posted on 07/29/2019 10:21:44 AM PDT by i_robot73 (One could not count the number of *solutions*, if only govt followed\enforced the Constitution.)
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To: Kaslin

Bernie Believes Raising Your Taxes Will Save You Money In The Long Run!

Anyone, who believes in this should be sterilized to prevent future idiots and then placed in an institution for their safety and others.

Unfortunately, in California,Washington, Oregone, NY, Mass and NJ,they go to colleges for free and end up as social workers or instructors of this bs.


35 posted on 07/29/2019 11:23:09 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Lose the demographic war! You lose your country! Illegals are winning that war across the world!)
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To: Kaslin
the vast majority of the American people will pay substantially less for health care

And they will pay even less when the government starts rationing care and denying treatments. And they'll pay less again when they make all the doctors and nurses employees of the federal government. It's unconscionable that a doctor earns more than a Senator from Vermont!

36 posted on 07/29/2019 4:04:50 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: matt04

Understanding Obamacare in 4 sentences:

1. To insure the uninsured, we first have to un-insure the insured.

2. Next, we require the newly un-insured to be re-insured.

3. To re-insure the newly un-insured, they are required to pay extra charges to be re-insured.

4. The extra charges are required so that the originally insured, who became un-insured, and then became re-insured, can pay enough extra so that the original un-insured can be insured, and it will be ‘free-of-charge’ for them.


37 posted on 07/29/2019 4:14:42 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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38 posted on 07/29/2019 4:21:40 PM PDT by x
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To: Kaslin

Having my arms and legs cut off will save on grocery bills in the long run....

Makes as much sense..


39 posted on 07/29/2019 4:38:17 PM PDT by GraceG ("If I post an AWESOME MEME, STEAL IT! JUST RE-POST IT IN TWO PLACES PLEASE")
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To: Kaslin

I remember they said the same thing about BarryCare.


40 posted on 07/29/2019 6:07:42 PM PDT by gogeo (The left prides themselves on being tolerant, but they can't even be civil.)
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