Posted on 07/20/2019 5:46:07 PM PDT by huckfillary
Medicare for All = medical care for none!
what are the bad points ?
“No, the same as all government employees have. The 1983 agreement Reagan and Tip O’Neill worked out to save SS and Medicare for 75 years made all new hire government employees pay into SS. They were already paying into Medicare. I say that advisedly having worked for the federal government for 36 years.”
And we both know that CONgressional pensions under FERS are more generous than for peasant FERS personnel (after all, some animals are more special than others).
The good points:
1) Remove the mostly bad influence that “private” (actually, extensively regulated and in bed with all politicians) insurance conglomerates have on the care you get, who gives it, when, and how they give it.
2) End surprise billing and make more people able to get care when they need it.
The bad points:
1) Eliminate price signaling to deploy resources where they are needed (except traditional Medicare has almost completely wrecked price signals anyway).
2) Diverts resources to favored groups (drug addicts and illegal aliens especially), except, again EMTALA and the legal system have basically done this already.
I’ve been working as a doctor for 45 years, the “reformers” have already wrecked the system, to the extent that the damage remains invisible it’s a tribute to the current workforce but as the millennials come on line that will become obvious to everyone.
Hope that helps.
FWIW
- medicare for all...who will hospitals cost-shift to ?
history tells us that initial cost estimates for any project ( where gov. is involved ? Obamacare ?) are:
- too low WAGs.
- only a starting point at best.
A startling look at what Vermont (population 625k ) eventually did after they approved single-payer.
- they estimated that their “single-payer” starting point was at least as much as their entire yearly state budget.(was 4 billion then, now 6 billion for FY 2021 - of which includes increases in payments for medicaid & other welfare programs).
Roll that over an additional 350 million people - minus those already on Medicare.
Who pays ?
I have Ins. via my wife. It's a high deductible plan with an HRA attached.
I still use VA, purely for cost,(co-pays only regardless of insurance) yet my wife's insurance still has to pay the bill.
If I had to pay the co-pays for the services I have been given by the VA, had the service been outside of the VA, with only my wife's insurance ? I'd have to go back to work.
Can “Medicare for all” be able to keep and add to those giving medical care ?
I probably wont be around for the final decision...
Within a few years, if not from the start, hospitals will have to be nationalized. They operate as semi-public utilities already (except for the small for-profit sector), but since the early 1990s they have formed a de facto alliance with the insurance industry to keep overcharging for what they do.
seems Obamacare tried to lay the foundation for that by banning Medicare from new Dr. owned hospitals.
thanks again...
This all started long, long before “Obamacare”.
To seize control, they had to destroy the influence of the doctors. Lawyers, bureaucrats, and ESPECIALLY congress things HATEHATEHATE the fact that doctors have been more trusted than they are.
In the destruction of doctor’s influence, the hospitals were happy to collaborate, thinking the monster would eat them last.
This may turn out not to have been correct.
Every time in my career I have had some plan or other explained to me that cuts doctors out, I have simply replied, quoting Han Solo, speaking to Luke: “But who’s gonna fly it, kid? You?
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