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A Republic, If You Can Keep It
Townhall.com ^ | June 25, 2019 | Paul Curry

Posted on 06/25/2019 4:44:18 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: wastoute

Our country was not founded soley on any government. It was founded in communion with God Almighty. No mmorals based on Him are no morals at all.
He can save it, if we are willing to get dirty and bloody, giving up a/c and other comforts for a time. For our children and their children.
Our greatest generation did this and defeated an entire world of sheer one world leadship.


21 posted on 06/25/2019 6:13:38 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Do you know anyone who isnÂ’t a socialist after 65? Freedom exchanged for cash and control.)
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To: taxcontrol
I am of the opinion that one of the most damaging amendments past was the direct election of Senators. This moved us far closer to a Democracy and mob rule.

1913 was a bad year in general for freedom in America. Consider: The Federal Reserve system, Income Tax, and direct election of Senators were all imposed in the same year.

22 posted on 06/25/2019 7:47:20 AM PDT by zeugma (Power without accountability is fertilizer for tyranny.)
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To: zeugma

1913 was one of the 3 big turning points in American History.

1861-65.
1913
The 1960’s cultural revolution.


23 posted on 06/25/2019 8:25:27 AM PDT by crusher2013
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To: Undecided 2012

How dare you suggest that WE pay for government frivolity NOW, when we can choose to collapse the economy for future generations instead?


24 posted on 06/25/2019 8:40:09 AM PDT by alstewartfan ("The strangest women run wild down there Covered head to toe with Fur and hair." Al Stewart in Hanno)
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To: Kaslin; All

Regarding the so-called republic, the problem is, hypothetically speaking, that regardless of the American Revolution, former British subjects probably didn’t stop thinking like British subjects imo.

For that matter, neither did probably many freedmen stop thinking like slaves imo.

Insights welcome.


25 posted on 06/25/2019 9:34:02 AM PDT by Amendment10
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To: 14themunny; 21stCenturion; 300magnum; A Strict Constructionist; abigail2; AdvisorB; Aggie Mama; ...

Federalist/Anti-Federalist ping.


26 posted on 06/25/2019 9:55:06 AM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill & Publius available at Amazon.)
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To: taxcontrol
I am of the opinion that one of the most damaging amendments past was the direct election of Senators. This moved us far closer to a Democracy and mob rule.

The evidence speaks for itself. When legislators in each State selected their best statesmen to go into the august body, that is what it was and provided a natural bulwark for the Tenth Amendment.

27 posted on 06/25/2019 11:16:30 AM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: zeugma

Thank the Progressives. See Progressing America’s FR profile page and FR posts for the history of the Progressives subverting America.

http://www.freerepublic.com/~progressingamerica

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:progressingamerica/index?tab=articles


28 posted on 06/25/2019 11:29:00 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

I meant to ping you to the above.


29 posted on 06/25/2019 11:30:54 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: taxcontrol

I agree.


30 posted on 06/25/2019 12:06:26 PM PDT by vpintheak (Stop making stupid people famous!)
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To: Kaslin
Thank you for posting!

Too frequently, Progressive TV talking heads and Progressive politicians talk on and on about "our democracy" and whether it can survive the current Administration. Clearly, such "Progressives," who formerly self-identified as "Liberals," either did not study the 1776 and 1787 Framers and Founders' words and actions, or they have a far different agenda than did those brave men and women who sought individual freedom, as well as strictly limited government. The Framers' rejected "democracy," because they had studied the history of nations and understood that pure "democracy" led to "turbulence" and tyranny.

The Founders and Framers of America's Constitutional government made their intentions and their Constitutional structuring clear at the time, and all the later talk of "democracy" reflects the Liberal/Progressive ideology--not the Framers' philosophy of individual liberty and limited government power.

To go from what Jefferson called "the American mind" of 1776--generations who were willing to sacrifice everything for the cause of liberty in America and, as a "beacon of liberty" throughout the world--to what only can be described as the "foolishness" discussed by Progressives, should alarm all who care about the prospects of freedom for our posterity!

“Posterity! You will never know how much it cost the present Generation to preserve your Freedom! I hope you will make good use of it. If you do not, I shall repent in Heaven, that I ever took half the Pains to preserve it.” - John Adams

“Democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts and murders itself. There was never a democracy that did not commit suicide.” - – John Adams, letter to John Taylor, 1814

The second Adams quotation, above, reminds us, too, that, contrary to Progressive claims, the Founders and Framers of America's Constitution never formed a "democracy," as is explained thoroughly by John Quincy Adams in his "Jubilee" Address* in NYC at the invitation of the New York Historical Society in 1839, which concludes with the following statement:
" Fellow-citizens, the ark of your covenant is the Declaration of independence. Your Mount Ebal, is the confederacy of separate state sovereignties, and your Mount Gerizim is the Constitution of the United States. In that scene of tremendous and awful solemnity, narrated in the Holy Scriptures, there is not a curse pronounced against the people, upon Mount Ebal, not a blessing promised them upon Mount Gerizim, which your posterity may not suffer or enjoy, from your and their adherence to, or departure from, the principles of the Declaration of Independence, practically interwoven in the Constitution of the United States. Lay up these principles, then, in your hearts, and in your souls – bind them for signs upon your hands, that they may be as frontlets between your eyes – teach them to your children, speaking of them when sitting in your houses, when walking by the way, when lying down and when rising up – write them upon the doorplates of your houses, and upon your gates – cling to them as to the issues of life – adhere to them as to the cords of your eternal salvation. So may your children’s children at the next return of this day of jubilee, after a full century of experience under your national Constitution, celebrate it again in the full enjoyment of all the blessings recognized by you in the commemoration of this day, and of all the blessings promised to the children of Israel upon Mount Gerizim, as the reward of obedience to the law of God."

Please read entire speech here.

*THE JUBILEE OF THE CONSTITUTION: A Discourse Delivered at the Request of the New York Historical Society, in the City of New York, on Tuesday, the 30th of April, 1839; Being the Fiftieth Anniversary of the Inauguration of George Washington as President of the United States, on Thursday, the 30th of April, 1789."

31 posted on 06/25/2019 1:49:31 PM PDT by loveliberty2 (`)
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To: Publius

Thanks, Publius.

This essay deserves widest distribution!


32 posted on 06/25/2019 3:26:04 PM PDT by Taxman (We will never be a truly free people so long as we have the income tax and the IRS.)
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To: Kaslin

“The deliberations of the Constitutional Convention of 1787 were held in strict secrecy. Consequently, anxious citizens gathered outside Independence Hall when the proceedings ended in order to learn what had been produced behind closed doors. The answer was provided immediately. A Mrs. Powel of Philadelphia asked Benjamin Franklin, “Well, Doctor, what have we got, a republic or a monarchy?” With no hesitation whatsoever, Franklin responded, “A republic, if you can keep it.” (Benjamin Franklin)”
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

In this version of his response, it is a woman named Mrs. Powel who posed the question.

Regardless of who asked the question, it was a fantastic answer that we are in a battle today to keep the Constitutional Republic, not a democracy or a monarchy, created from the writings of John Locke.


33 posted on 06/26/2019 12:40:48 AM PDT by LaMudBug
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To: taxcontrol

Have you ever looked into why the public was convinced that the popular election of senators was so important? A constitutional amendment is not an easy thing.


34 posted on 06/27/2019 2:29:08 AM PDT by Loud Mime (Liberalism: intolerance masquerading as tolerance)
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