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Northrop And Raytheon Have Been Secretly Working On Scramjet Powered Hypersonic Missile
thedrive.com/the-war-zone ^ | June 18, 2019 | Joseph Trevithick

Posted on 06/19/2019 5:58:03 AM PDT by RoosterRedux

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To: central_va
Any control surfaces would be ripped off at that speed. How do you steer a bullet?

Hypersonic Aerodynamic Control and Thrust Vectoring by Nonequilibrium Cold-Air Magnetohydrodynamic Devices

61 posted on 06/19/2019 8:59:03 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: LeonardFMason
"Tanks use the Trophy active protective system. Surely our Billion dollar naval vessels are protected by something far better."

Orders of magnitude more surface to protect. Probably way too expensive.

62 posted on 06/19/2019 9:12:44 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: PapaBear3625

Was that even English?


63 posted on 06/19/2019 9:14:20 AM PDT by afterhoursarmory
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To: allendale

Somehow I doubt that Stealth technology, as a overall concept, overlaps at all with Hypersonic weapons technology. Anything moving that fast is generating a lot of eat as well as a pressure wave (noise).

Anything flying Mach 3 or better is also going to be operating at very high altitudes — not on the deck where today’s ship killing weapons tend to operate. Maybe a hypersonic could do a terminal low-level pass, but the margin of error for obtaining a hit gets a little dicey at those speeds. If youre off even a fraction of a degree on your approach vector you could miss by a significant margin.


64 posted on 06/19/2019 9:44:28 AM PDT by Tallguy (Facts be d@mned! The narrative must be protected at all costs!)
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To: Mouton

“My guess, a lot of the UFO sightings by USN can be traced to some of these secret missiles et al being tested over water.”

My guess is that these sightings are of very small, stealthy drones. The Navy recently upgraded the radar to an updated ASEA model on their F-18E/F models. They’re picking up a lot of small stuff that the older radars didn’t “see” or were set to “ignore”.


65 posted on 06/19/2019 9:47:38 AM PDT by Tallguy (Facts be d@mned! The narrative must be protected at all costs!)
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To: Tallguy

Nevertheless the technology keeps advancing. The question is can these ships defend from the different types of missiles and drones and survive. For instance suppose a distant submarine launches a cruise missile which is loaded with hundreds of small “seagull” stealthy drones packed with C4 plastique programmed to swarm a huge carrier about to launch fully armed and fueled planes? IMHO these big surface capital ships are big targets for clever weapon designers. Not sure the defensive systems can stay ahead of the offensive weaponry.


66 posted on 06/19/2019 10:03:52 AM PDT by allendale (.)
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To: allendale

No doubt. I saw a video of a couple of F-18’s scattering a bunch of small swarming semi-autonomous drones in a demonstration.

Looked like they could click on an object presented on their targetting pod and the drones would swarm that object. Click somewhere else and they would move like a flock of sparrows and begin circling that focal point.

I’m thinking that if each was carrying a small grenade-size fragmentation warhead and those “targets” were SAM installations, that it would be game-over for the missile shooters.


67 posted on 06/19/2019 10:36:17 AM PDT by Tallguy (Facts be d@mned! The narrative must be protected at all costs!)
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To: allendale

Todays “battleship admirals” will only come to this realization after a steep price is paid with young blood.
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However, until they do, the fleet is immensely useful.


68 posted on 06/19/2019 1:24:59 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: central_va
Any control surfaces would be ripped off at that speed. How do you steer a bullet?

You are incorrect in your assumption. (link shows steered .50 caliber bullets)

Smart artllery shells (155 mm) are now common.

I worked on the projects and attended briefings.

69 posted on 06/19/2019 1:33:40 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: PIF

They can come in relatively slow and maneuver then speed up then BAM!


70 posted on 06/19/2019 4:29:39 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: PIF

I haven’t measured the circumference of the earth myself.. but evidence is clear.
The size, shape,orbital plane and distances of our moon is unique.
There are many other data sets.
Cheers


71 posted on 06/19/2019 5:22:15 PM PDT by momincombatboots (Do you know anyone who isnÂ’t a socialist after 65? Freedom exchanged for cash and control.)
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To: PIF

I haven’t measured the circumference of the earth myself.. but evidence is clear.
The size, shape,orbital plane and distances of our moon is unique.
There are many other data sets.
Cheers


72 posted on 06/19/2019 5:22:16 PM PDT by momincombatboots (Do you know anyone who isnÂ’t a socialist after 65? Freedom exchanged for cash and control.)
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To: Tenacious 1

The reveal provides for FUD if plausible.


73 posted on 06/19/2019 8:28:48 PM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: central_va

Hyper-sonic vehicles tend to form a plasma sheath which can be manipulated by application of MHD techniques. Some approaches work all the way down to Mach 2 with a little augmentation to form the plasma. See NASA Glenn hyper-sonic research under Blankson.


74 posted on 06/19/2019 8:40:49 PM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: Tallguy

Maybe those Navy laser tests aim to decoy a missile’s terminal guidance lock. Might also be capable of creating gremlins that appear to demonstrate impossible maneuvers.


75 posted on 06/19/2019 8:55:53 PM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: momincombatboots

The Universe not the moon which is not evidence of anything since we’ve only explored less than 1 percent of the surface to say nothing of all the lava tubes and so on.

As far as I recall this is the first mention of the moon in this thread.


76 posted on 06/20/2019 1:01:54 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: PIF

Actually this was my thread of the day. Loved the scramjet concept.. spent coffee time talking about it with hubby.
Somebody mention air force ufos... so the moon is relevant in that regard.
We are the only intelligent life, except for our xreator. Einstein, Newton and even a handful of scientists today make that clear.
If you count heaven and hell.. yep there is intelligence somewhere else. That’s a bit existential if the moon is off topic.
FR was always a place of thought, debate and respectful disagreement. A gentleman’s debate. It has changed quite a bit. But... i still prefer that forum.


77 posted on 06/20/2019 3:59:32 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Do you know anyone who isnÂ’t a socialist after 65? Freedom exchanged for cash and control.)
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To: central_va

In the eyes of any missile, ships do not “maneuver”.


78 posted on 06/20/2019 7:14:03 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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