Posted on 05/17/2019 3:29:46 AM PDT by Kaslin
The Fake News Media is hurting our Country with its fraudulent and highly inaccurate coverage of Iran. It is scattershot, poorly sourced (made up), and DANGEROUS. At least Iran doesn’t know what to think, which at this point may very well be a good thing!
9:44 AM · May 17, 2019
“The modern Russian T-14 Armata is impressive.”
On paper maybe.
To date they have taken delivery of less than two dozen tanks for evaluation, and may take delivery of only 100 out of the previously planned 2,300 Armata’s due to cost.
The Russians have decided to spend their money upgrading existing T-72, T-80, and T-90 (itself a modernized T-72) tanks.
Let the Iranian people achieve it, then. The US can help, but not with boots on the ground.
As usual, Pat’s reflexive antipathy for Israel clouds his judgment. He is right that a war is not in America’s interests, but it’s also not in Israel or Saudi Arabia’s interests, either.
Fortunately, there are plenty of Iranians who also want regime change, especially the oppressed ethnic and religious minorities in Iran, and forward-thinking Iranians. Let them handle whatever fighting there might be. America is well out of it, and well able to supply arms, logistics and intelligence, without getting embroiled.
And then there are sanctions. Keep them in effect. War? As Isaac Asimov said, violence is the first resort of the incompetent.
“The M1 was excellent in Desert Storm, completely unmatched. The world has changed. We need to revamp our forces first.”
Sure agree with that. Just out of curiosity I did a little reading on the Russian T-14. It’s an interesting concept; on the path toward an autonomous battlefield. But, the Russians are not even close to putting this tank into operation. First of all Russia doesn’t have the money and won’t have for the foreseeable future if we continue to be self sustaining with petroleum. But, agree we need to develop new platforms for the battlefield of the future. A good forward thinking post. Thanks.
There are plans for modernizing the force with new systems and/or complete redesigns of legacy systems.
A lot of the technology that was under development for the Future Combat System is being integrated into the legacy systems to not only recapitalize mobility lost due to weight increases, but also to provide better situational awareness and lethality.
The Bradley is going through ECP1 and ECP2 (Engineering Change Proposal) to create the M2A4/M3A4.
The next generation of the Abrams will be lighter, faster, and more lethal than the current M1A2SEPv3. A proposal for the next Abrams is to give it the ability to receive targeting data from drones to be able to hit targets beyond line of sight.
+10.
Good info, thanks.
I noticed that both Russia and US are designing their tanks of the future to be much lighter. To me, this means both believe future Desert Storm size tank battles to be a thing of the past. Also, not as yet noted, the US is light years ahead of Russia, China, anyone, when it comes to the ability to project power and the science and technology of Logistics. We absolutely own this arena. Frankly, I doubt that China or Russia will ever achieve parity with us in this regard. Our superiority goes back to our American Civil War. Russia and China would do well to deliver offensive power to their own borders. Never happen to any meaningful extent to some distant hotspot. My two bits.
Dumbest and costliest reason to go to war. An Archduke - really?
One thing that we completely beat the Russians at, and also likely the Chinese at, is logistics though. Defense procurement can be a clunky, bureaucratic process, but when we get it right, we get it right. Case in point, the proposal to put 30mm on Strykers to beef up their firepower instead of having just a .50 cal went from a whiteboard idea to actually installing 30mm turrets on 2nd Cavalry Regiment in like 18-24 months and having them conduct gunnery in them. JLTV, the HMMWV replacement, I think will be another success story in due time; it’s built on tried and true MRAP technology, taking the existing MATV and making a few tweaks to make it lighter for air transport and for mass production.
As far as logistics when it comes to supply, it may not seem like it sometimes, but we’re light years ahead of the competition. We have prepositioned stock all over the world that deploying troops can fall in on in case of a crisis. We don’t even touch it on Iraq/Afghanistan rotations. It’s purely in case of emergency.
Curious how much of the Bradley modernization will borrow from the AMPV project, and also who will get the modernized Bradleys. Example, our line troops and scouts go out in Bradleys, but their combat engineers go clunking around in ancient M113s which weren’t even IED-resistant in Vietnam and military equipment doesn’t exactly get better with age. We got to make sure our enablers, like engineers, mortar carriers, mobile command posts, armored MEDEVAC, etc., can keep up. I’ve heard some Armored Brigade Combat Teams even used the medical Stryker variant (!!!) even though Strykers are obviously not organic to their unit, just since it’s at least some kind of armored MEDEVAC that’s more capable than a M113 and also more protected than those medical HMMWVs.
All these royal people were related to each other, and they were all trying to avoid a war, and then they all went to war. The world has never really recovered since. It’s been one long chain reaction, 101 years and still going.
AMEN BROTHER!The demographics prove that Iran is dying - the replacement birth rate is something like 1.1 and the necessary birth rate for a country to survive is 2.1 - So if we do nothing Iran will disappear as a nation before 2200. However, long before that Iran will have major problems supporting an increasingly elderly population. In an advanced country like America this is a problem, but for a third world country like Iran it’s a disaster. Iran has been so aggressive the last few years because the Iranian leadership understands the demographics problem, so they must move now secure the empire. Like the man said, “Never attack your enemy when he is in the process of destroying himself.”
Who Wants This War With Iran?
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Neo-cons, Never-trumpers, Dems who want to see both Trump and the Republican Party lose heavily in the future, and morons.
My understanding is that the AMPV and the Bradley ECP’s are using a lot of the technologies that were researched under the now defunct FCS (Future Combat Systems) program.
The AMPV is 78% bigger than the old M113 that it’s replacing, it’s better armored than the M113, and faster too which means the engineers, medics, mortars,and the command section can finally keep up with the Abrams and Bradley’s.
The new M109A7 is pretty much mechanically the same as the Bradley. They have the same power packs, final drives, tracks, suspension, etc. With the greater mobility, these can now keep up with the Abrams and Bradley’s too. The M109A7 is also using technology from the N-LOS and Crusader.
The Stryker is a joke, and has always been a joke. It’s general shinseki’s parting FU gift to the Army. They never met the basic requirements of being rapidly deployable roll on/roll off a C130 with little or no preparation. They have limited off road capability (tracked vehicles are better off road than wheeled vehicles)
Stryker brigades don’t even deploy them. They fall in on MRAPs downrange and this has been the case since like 2011. MATV, RG-31, or the Cougar (Marines) are all MRAPs in our inventory now and used downrange, and they do a good job at light-medium wheeled armor. Instead of throwing more money to revamp Strykers, I say just use the proven MRAP series of vehicles. But, I don’t make that call :(
The Stryker has been downrange to Iraq and Afghanistan from ‘03 to ‘11.
But yeah once everything started to wind down they pulled all the remaining strykers out and let the troops fall in on the RG-31’s, MaxxPRO’s, etc that we’re still in country. And I agree that nothing should be spent on them.
The Stryker was nothing more than a niche vehicle suited more for peace keeping in Bosnia or Kosovo because that’s what shinseki and his cronies in the infantry mafia envisioned the future was going to be.
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