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‘There was no attempted coup’: FBI’s former top lawyer defends Russia probe
MSN News ^ | 5/10/2019 | Matt Zapotosky

Posted on 05/10/2019 3:03:32 PM PDT by detective

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To: semantic

Downer thinks it’s ridiculous to think FBI spied on Trump campaign. much more. interviewer Andrew Bolt is Trump supporter, yet thinks Papadopoulos’s story is a “conspiracy theory”.

interview with Alexander Downer - from 9:03 to 20:15 (remainder concerns Australian federal election of 18 May).

Podcast 46min: (audio only): The Bolt Report, Thursday 9th May
http://more.skynews.com.au/podcasts/the-bolt-report-podcast/

short excerpt:

VIDEO: 1:55 - 9 May: Facebook: The Bolt Report: WATCH: Former Foreign Minister Alexander Downer on his meeting with Trump campaign advisor George Papadopoulos in a London that led to the Mueller investigation. On the Bolt Report, Sky News Australia
https://www.facebook.com/theboltreport/videos/2200886699958364/

Papadopoulos needs to hear/watch these. hope someone can get the links to him.


61 posted on 05/10/2019 5:12:23 PM PDT by MAGAthon
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To: detective

How does that ...receiving a tip...give the FBI REASON OR PERMISSION to SPY, SURVEIL, AND HARRASS.

Ever hear of “first do no harm??”

Well, FIRST YOU SEE IF THE ‘TIP’ HAS MERIT...THEN YOU INVESTIGATE.

Exactly when did you, Mr Baker, verify the “tip information?”

NEVER!!!!!


62 posted on 05/10/2019 5:15:59 PM PDT by Maris Crane
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To: semantic

Sara Carter reports many in the plotter group are turning on each other.


63 posted on 05/10/2019 5:18:58 PM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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To: detective

Bagdad Bob? Is that you? We’ve missed you.


64 posted on 05/10/2019 5:28:59 PM PDT by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house....)
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To: detective

To be fair, I have not read the article.

What I wanna know is why they did not tell President-elect Trump

about their concerns?


65 posted on 05/10/2019 5:31:45 PM PDT by missthethunder
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To: detective

Don’t piss down my back and tell me it’s raining Baker.


66 posted on 05/10/2019 5:44:45 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (When the strong man, fully armed, guards his own dwelling, his goods are safe. -Luke 11:21)
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To: semantic
Hmmm, see this is where I think you're allowing yourself to think too subjectively, by embracing a certain faith without perhaps fully considering the true situation.

Why do you think I haven't "consider(ed) the true situation"? Of course I have, according to my filter, just as you have according to yours.

And by that, I'm using my assessment of social media, of people I speak to, of neighbors I have, of cultural ceremonies I observe, etc to gauge what, IMHO, is the true measure of deep state support.

All ancecdotal evidence. I also have similar ancecdotal evidence. Are you asserting that your powers of observation are superior to mine? Maybe they are, and maybe they are not. I trust my own eyes and brain, goodman, just as you do.

If I am correct, then some significant part of the population is not going accept that the conspirators did anything "wrong", but rather they were acting in good faith in the best interest of mankind, peace and universal brotherhood.

I concur, but maybe differ on the number of "hardcore" and "unchangeable" people who will NEVER give up the con. I assert that part of Trump's "offensive" is peeling off the portion of that population that will react to the truth when it comes out, and dump the con. This is what #TheGreatAwakening is all about.

That's why the call it #TheGreatAwakening.

Dismiss these sentiments at your peril - educated, professional proglibs believe this position just as fervently as you believe the cabal are running a con.

You misunderstand me. I am fully aware of "these sentiments" but happen to believe that Trump's psyop, coupled with his actions, CAN work. Of course there will be a percentage that will never acknowledge the truth. Trump's psyop estimates that number to be 4-6%.

This has all ben discussed by Trump's psyop and those that pay attention to it. So yes, I'm fully aware of what you're talking about.

And this is where (redacted) or any other Trump offensive will fail if it only address the direct material misdeeds.

If you had been following Trump's psyop closely (as I have), you would know that Trump and his team are completely and definitely addressing all aspects of the deep state power structure all across the world. All aspects and in such detail there isn't room in this post to list them all.

You make a mistake if you believe that the small-fry tools in the FBI and DOJ are the extent of Trump's offensive. Again, had you been paying attention to Trump's psyop, you would be aware of this.

He calls it "The war to save the world". You don't win that war by arresting James Comey and John Brennan and assorted other flying monkeys and calling it a day. Necessary and a good start, but it's much larger than that. And The Donald is quite aware.

The scope of the war must be increased in order to attack the main body, which is represented by global finance and media conglomerates.

I can't tell you the number of Trump psyop posts I've read talking about exactly this. The war IS expanded and the main body IS being attacked. The legs of the power structure are being taken out. Example #1 - Saudi Arabia. Again, Trump and his psyop are aware of all that you say is necessary. You and Trump's psyop are in total agreement on this, and by proxy, with The Donald himself.

Convict, incarcerate or execute, a legion of heroes will be born, and their legend exalted, if the victors cannot control how history is written.

I'm slightly confused on your meaning here, so forgive me if this response misses the mark.

THE PLAN is total victory and exactly for what you suggest to happen. That the truth is revealed and the "good guys" win. And that the "bad guys" lose all power and the ability to write the history books. That is what Trump intends, anyway, and is making a valiant effort. The derps fight back, as you know.

Hussein, et al are merely foot soldiers carrying out policy directives established by powers much greater than simplistic elected or bureaucratic figurehead positions.

On this point, we completely agree. This is bigger than we know. I honestly think we agree more than we disagree. Shades of disagreement if at all, really.

The bottom line is this. The Donald is aware of what he's up against, and is being advised and assisted by true patriots with a very special skill set.

If he can't win this war, then it can't be won.

We shall see.

As for me? I can have nothing but faith in success. I honestly don't understand those who don't.

#GoodTalk

😃


67 posted on 05/10/2019 6:23:25 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: semantic

> But what happens when some significant % of the population vehemently disagrees that the conspirators were “wrong”, and in fact are persecuted “heroes”? What then?

The real % who are willing to go down with that ship will be around half a percent tops. They will be put down with force, and with prejudice, if they get out of line.


68 posted on 05/10/2019 6:27:30 PM PDT by thoughtomator (The Clinton Coup attempt was a worse attack on the USA than was 9/11)
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Another lying Democrat!


69 posted on 05/10/2019 7:08:06 PM PDT by Retvet (Retvet)
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To: jmaroneps37

And Bill Clinton did not have sex with that woman.


70 posted on 05/11/2019 5:00:34 AM PDT by killermosquito (Buffalo, Detroit (and eventually France) is what you get when liberalism runs its course.)
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To: semantic; bagster; Hostage; PGalt
"In this regard, the USA isn't viewed as uniquely special, that its culture, laws and values weren't directly responsible for our affluence, but rather we got "lucky" due to privilege and overall aggressive characteristics (cue: mercantilism, colonialism, imperialism, racism, ism ...)"

The Left uses similar rationale all the time to justify their ideological biases. Those who worked hard and saved over a lifetime are regarded as "privileged". Those who see the necessity of having borders are "nationalists". Anyone who is poor is automatically considered to be "virtuous" and a "victim" of an unjust system. And on and on it goes. They have derogatory labels for everyone who they perceive as an obstacle to their goals.

"bringing the conspirators to "justice" doesn't mean jack shite, not as long as an entrenched enemy can continue to engage in subversion."

If there is no exposure/punishment this will all happen again. It will be a license to steal and we may not be so lucky next time. This could easily have turned out much different with disastrous implications for our republic. While it is true that the mendacious media will twist the story and portray the perps as heros I still think they need to be brought to justice, to the extent that is possible. And I think Barr is intent on doing just that. If he does we might just see that this plot implicates not just the perps, but those in high office that directed them.

BTW, I am not a Q fan.

71 posted on 05/11/2019 7:42:08 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Starboard
... I still think they need to be brought to justice...

BUMP

72 posted on 05/11/2019 10:01:06 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: detective

That was all a FBI setup, where their spies fed that info to Pappy and then he repeated to another FBI spy. That was the predicate for further spying.


73 posted on 05/11/2019 2:30:19 PM PDT by Titus-Maximus (The trouble with socialism is that you soon run out of other people's zoo animals to eat.)
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