Posted on 05/03/2019 7:54:25 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
Trick question. The confed constitution (such as it was) "enshrined" slavery but the US Constitution did not.
Wrong - again.
“Well they did appoint an ambassador to Britain and France with plenipotentiary power to agree to a treaty that would have seen the CSA abolish slavery so they were willing to abolish it during the war.”
The did so only in Nov 1864. By that time most of the Western Confederacy was in the hands of the Union Army.
Lee was penned up in Petersburg. 95% of Southern ports were closed to shipping because of the blockade. Parts of the Confederacy was on the verge of starvation.
The offer to end slavery in exchange for recognition was a last ditch desperate effort to save a Confederacy that clearly was losing the war. The British and French Governments saw was it for what it was, an act of desperation brought on by their immanent collapse of the Confederate house of cards.
The Confederate Government did not have the authority to abolish slavery without an amendment to the Confederate Constitution.
Obviously it wasn't the Buchanan administration only. The complaints about partisan sectional legislation had been longstanding. The Tariff of Abominations and the Nullification Crisis were a generation earlier. There had been constant sparring between the regions over a range of issues.
Would they have seceded if Breckenridge had been elected?
No trick. The US Constitution had a fugitive slave clause, allowed for the slave trade for 20 more years, and had the 3/5s compromise. The Northern dominated Congress passed and Lincoln offered a constitutional amendment which would have expressly protected slavery.
Nope. You're wrong and I'm right.
The Hidden History of Slavery in NY.
https://www.thenation.com/article/hidden-history-slavery-new-york/
In 1991 excavators for a new federal office building in Manhattan unearthed the remains of more than 400 Africans stacked in wooden boxes sixteen to twenty-eight feet below street level. The cemetery dated back to the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries, and its discovery ignited an effort by many Northerners to uncover the history of the institutional complicity with slavery. In 2000 Aetna, one of Connecticuts largest companies, apologized for profiting from slavery by issuing insurance policies on slaves in the 1850s. After a four-month investigation into its archives, Connecticuts largest newspaper, the Hartford Courant, apologized for selling advertisement space in its pages for the sale of slaves in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries. And in 2004 Ruth Simmons, president of Brown University, established the Steering Committee on Slavery and Justice to investigate and discuss an uncomfortable piece of the universitys history: The construction of the universitys first building in 1764, reads a university press release, involved the labor of Providence area slaves.
Now another blue-blooded institutionthe New-York Historical Societyhas joined this important public engagement with our past by mounting an ambitious exhibition, Slavery in New York. To all those who think slavery was a Southern thing, think again. In 1703, 42 percent of New Yorks households had slaves, much more than Philadelphia and Boston combined. Among the colonies cities, only Charleston, South Carolina, had more.
So you say but the fact remains that they offered to abolish slavery during the war. Oh, and the war was still very much ongoing and hordes of Yankees still got mowed down before it came to an end.
President Jefferson Davis and the Confederate Congress were obviously of a different opinion.
Not even close PeeWee
Who knows? I would guess not but its impossible to say since history did not unfold that way.
“Lincoln offered a constitutional amendment which would have expressly protected slavery.”
Wrong, Lincoln couldn’t offer up an amendment, he was not a member of the Congress of the United States.
Not close. Spot on. I'm right about that and you are wrong.
I’m sorry, I thought I was replying to an adult. It now appears however that I am not.
Past your bedtime, sweetie. Night night.
Wrong. Everybody understood Lincoln's feigned ignorance was just that. What he was extending in his inaugural address was an offer. The quid pro quo was slavery effectively forever in exchange for the original 7 states re-entry into the union. They turned it down.
and by the way, it had already passed the House and the Senate with the necessary 2/3rds supermajority AFTER the Southern delegation had withdrawn.
Still did not offer it up in the Congress. He wasn’t in Congress.
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