Posted on 04/21/2019 5:37:11 AM PDT by Kaslin
Faith in Christ is an acceptance by faith of His sacrifice, resurrection, and ascension for salvation - and not to relics that may or may not be actual objects from that time.
If faith is based on anything other than Him alone, it is not saving faith.
Yes, and it thrills my soul to contemplate the astonishing data points of HIS resurrection. In my imagining I see HIM bring HIS soul and spirit back to the body, causing a flash of energy, THEN He just moved into a different coordinate system and returned the head cloth to the tomb and exited the tomb without rolling away the stone. [That other coordinate system is illustrated for us way back in Daniel 5.] He appeared later in a locked and shuttered room without opening an entry way, so leaving the rock tomb would be just as easy.
“...piece tested may have been subjected to a medieval reweave or repair as determined by chemical analysis in 2005.”
So why not subject multiple parts of the shroud to carbon dating so real accuracy can be determined?
Reweaving was proven to have been done, to repair the cloth where it was singed by a fire.
Ok, I understand but why not, as I said, test multiple parts of the cloth to obtain more accuracy?
Good question, and such testing would remove pieces ...
Amen
I’m more interested in what wasn’t found in His tomb - Him! And He was seen among Men with the wounds which He endured for us and turned Saul from a persecutor to Paul, the main proponent of Jesus.
Interesting, but I don’t find it very relevant. We need to put our faith in Jesus and believe who he says he is.
Thank You,
Happy Easter!
Discarded linens. The Lord defeated sin and death, showed us the tomb is just a hamper.
E. W. Kenyon explained that when Jesus was prepared for burial,according to Jewish tradition at the time, he was wrapped in clothe that had a solution applied to it that hardened. They did not have time for the head, which is why a cloth was placed over his face.
When Peter went into the tomb, all he saw was an empty cocoon that had not been cut open. Which is why he saw and believed.
>>A folded head cloth was found... meaning... I am returning...<<
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I wish someone would explain in detail and not give some private opinion.
I stumbled onto this teaching a few years back.
If you read your Scripture literally, it is hard to refute.
One of the best indicators of the resurrection is the behavior of the disciples soon after. Timid men do not all willfully die horrible deaths for a cause they think to be fake.
I’ve read extensively on the shroud. It is what it purports to be. No other explanation makes sense. I don’t have time to go back and crunch the info on the carbon 14, but quickly and by memory, they bungled it. They didn’t follow their full testing protocol. The cloth has been handled extensively over the years and some spots had new fibers woven in to repair. The area from which the sample was taken was the most extensively removed area. The greatest refutation of the carbon 14 testing is the so-called Pray Codex. This is a document from just before 1200 that includes a representation of Jesus being wrapped in a shroud. No reasonable person would disagree that it represents the Shroud of Turin: the head to toe wrapping is shown, He is nude, which was never represented in Christian art, the hands are in the same distinctive position, a close up of the cloth is shown, with its distinctive herringbone weave, and a distinctive series of holes are shown which match the same on the shroud, believed to be caused on the shroud by bits of smoldering incense falling on it. The Codex is about 70 years older than the earliest possible date claimed by the C14 testing.
The shroud is a photograph of Jesus caused by a flash of energy at the moment of resurrection. Like Thomas I can only cry out: My Lord and my God!
“Jesus sitting there smoking a cigarette” — reported by the fake new.
I just knew there was going to be a Geraldo Rivera reference somewhere.
bump
Much more needs to be re-transcribed to get back to the original meaning of words.
Yup.
One of the greatest proofs of the resurrection of Jesus is the very existence of the Christian Church itself. Eleven men, downcast, beaten, hopelessly discouraged after their Teacher was mercilessly executed, come out of nowhere some 40 days later, proclaiming that same Man to have been raised from the dead. If the Jews or the Romans had wanted to quash this, all they had to do was produce a body.
They couldn’t.
What’s more, look at the way the majority of the disciples died..
James, beheaded.
Peter, crucified upside-down.
Bartholemew, flayed alive.
Andrew, crucified.
Thomas, run through with a lance.
Jude, dragged through the streets.
Matthias, stoned then beheaded.
Even John, the ONLY disciple to die of old age, was boiled in oil but miraculously survived, and was then exiled to the island of Patmos.
Any of them could have ended their persecution just by saying, “Nope, sorry...it was not true.”. But NONE of them did. Would anyone, unless they were stark, raving insane, be willing to be tortured or DIE for something they knew was a lie?
To me, that means only one thing: These men saw a risen Jesus, and they staked their lives on that fact.
“He is risen!” “He is risen, indeed!”
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