Posted on 03/16/2019 12:46:05 PM PDT by Libloather
There was a study of students that graduated from elite schools versus those that were accepted at an elite school and had to drop due to non-academic reasons (family tragedy type stuff). After a period of time, those that had to quit the elite schools did just as well as the other students from elite/ivy league schools professionally and financially.
The intelligence and skill set required to get into an elite school is what mattered, not the name of the university.
Wow! Can you believe all of these Liberals violating laws and rules? I thought that only Republicans were scoundrels.
“If these colleges / degrees were really worth anything, these underprepared kids would flunk out. Why is it they dont?”
Maybe Shapiro is clueless, like he is with Trump, but Dershowitz explained that due to grade inflation in recent decades, NO ONE FAILS, and even C’s are rare.
And it makes sense - if you’re going to spend millions to get your idiot, lazy, kid into Harvard, the last thing you’ll put up with is that kid flunking out.
If people will pay 200,000.00 for a ringer on the SAT’s this ain’t EVER going away.
Chelsea Clinton BARELY went to Stanford. She spent her entire senior year traveling with Hilary — riding camels, and such, and winding up at the Olympics in Australia. And who can forget her walking hand in hand with Yasser Arafat at Camp David? She disrupted the “peace talks” so much that Arafat and his Israeli counterpart both went home early.
It’s been an open secret for more than 50 years that the hardest part of Stanford was getting in. Once you got in, they always let you graduate. In fact, there was a ruckus about that about 25 years ago in the Math Department. Some of the professors complained about grade inflation and lack of academic standards in the other departments. Stanford shut down the complaining profs and no more has been written about it.
You know, I’d hope that aspiring lawyers would be a little smarter than to try this stunt for the LSAT. If caught, it’d seriously impact their ability to ever get past their state bar’s ethics committee, but has it happened? Who knows. Probably. But the thing about high school kids taking the SAT is that they can sometime skate in with dodgy photo IDs. Not all of them have driver’s licenses, so I think the SAT accepts school-issued photo IDs and that’s an area ripe for abuse/forgery.
That money then could have bought you a VCR,a a vhs tape rewinder,a dozen pairs of bell bottom pants and a couple of brightly colored leisure suits. Plus some 8 track cartridges of Shaft, Superfly and Abba.
As a graduate in Mechanical Engineering from UC Berkeley (1965), I am left wondering why none of these high-class $hit people’s kids ever matriculate in The Sciences? Answer: Because they would be out on their A$$es at the end of the first semester. So they go in to the “non-science related underwater basketweaving” classes and get useless degrees that these schools now shamelessly award on which you can’t get a job pumping gas. And oh how times have changed. It cost me less than $150 per Quarter (they were on the quarter system back then) in tuition.
Jethro got in 6 years at Oxford and didn’t have to pay extra.
The two most declared majors at Texas’ public universities are Psychology and Distributed Studies. Worthless degrees that qualify the recipient to flip burgers. Maybe.
Jethro was “top of his class at Oxford.”
It isn't at least with Berkeley. Its all status and deceptive marketing at the undergraduate level. Berkeley is particularly attractive as a status symbol among the Asian community. When we were attending various talks by various UC campuses at my sons’ high school, the Berkley rep stated that they were # 1 in the nation. That was true but it was in research at the graduate level. That was never stated or made clear but the Asian parents were quite enthralled by the reps sales pitch.
At the under graduate level the education is pedestrian and sometimes mediocre at best. Think giant lecture halls with 300-400 students taught by a TA. You rarely encounter a professor. Like most colleges its a racket at that level.
My wife was a UCB graduate in Nursing with a BS in nursing. She enlisted in the Army prior to graduation. They payed for her education on the condition of a deferred entry and she serve a required term of enlistment. She went in as a 1st LT
later to rise to Capt. before ETS. This was in the 70’s
The better course is to go to a JC for 2 years get your pre-req’s then lateral in to a major school.
FWIW that's how I met my wife,in the Army.
“If these colleges / degrees were really worth anything, these underprepared kids would flunk out. Why is it they dont?”
I know someone whose son graduated from Yale, as did his parents. He has his own SAT tutoring business. He won’t hire anyone but Yale (or other “Ivy League”) grads. Thought of him immediately when this hit the fan. These people are so snobby about where they or their children go to college, but it is turning out that an education at a state or community college is better than these so-called elite colleges. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
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