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Drug Dealer Ambush or Defense Against Home Invasion?
Ammoland ^ | 31 January, 2019 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 02/02/2019 7:22:51 AM PST by marktwain

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To: Ol' Dan Tucker
"How do you know it was a pitbull?"

Hmmm... I guess I don't.. I just searched the net a bit and found nothing about the dog.. I made assumptions..
But, I don't think I would POP a chihuahua or a yorkie and I'm not even trained for the job... So, I just figured it was pitbull, aka drug dog...

61 posted on 02/02/2019 9:10:51 AM PST by unread (Joe McCarthy was right.......)
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To: marktwain
The problem with the drug buy is no tape or video

That is not typical I can promise you

And no cop had a cam on

Again not typical

It’s 12 miles btw not 20....I mapped it

No drugs found except a small bag of pot and some white powder they are lying about

Again this is how it works...I know exactly how this works from real life

That so called white powder they have field tested right away....they have shake and bake kits for that so they woulda claimed it instead of saying “could be”

This whole deal stinks and what you’re gonna get now is CYA

till someone forces their hand

This is how they do it.

Whoops

And the coverup and deny starts......from police chief down

Only thing thwarts that is racial sensitivity or third party interference

If I’m wrong I’ll own it

62 posted on 02/02/2019 9:11:42 AM PST by wardaddy (Progressive winter is coming.)
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To: eyeamok

Come to thank of it, so have I. And I have met some decent Officers, but that was long ago and far away.


63 posted on 02/02/2019 9:13:20 AM PST by sport
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To: MileHi

As Stevie Ray Vaughn loved to say

Crossfire.


64 posted on 02/02/2019 9:13:56 AM PST by wardaddy (Progressive winter is coming.)
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To: marktwain
"The people who executed the raid said they had an informant buy drugs at the location of the raid the previous day."

On Harding Street or Hardy Street?

Were they watching their informant as he did this? If they were, there's certainly video of him/her entering the house.

Or maybe there was something lost in the verbal translation. Autocomplete could have caused the mistaken address for that matter.

Several miles of separation might be a moot point in such a case.

Have they gotten a warrant on "the other house" yet?

65 posted on 02/02/2019 9:14:51 AM PST by OKSooner (Whichever one you already have, go buy the other one and then you'll have both.)
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To: Lurker

Ouch....that one left a mark on ol bert


66 posted on 02/02/2019 9:15:01 AM PST by wardaddy (Progressive winter is coming.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

That he did. And probably several of them. He was\is very fortunate that he was not well ventilated, as well as his wife.


67 posted on 02/02/2019 9:17:17 AM PST by sport
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To: wardaddy

That’s my guess.


68 posted on 02/02/2019 9:17:37 AM PST by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: TexasGator
Any prior convictions or arrests on either of them?

(Just axin', on the assumption that justice will prevail...)

69 posted on 02/02/2019 9:21:48 AM PST by OKSooner (Whichever one you already have, go buy the other one and then you'll have both.)
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To: unread
I don't think that pitbull cared one way or the other who or what was coming in that door, he was going to kill it.!

ANY dog is going to get upset when somebody crashes down the door to HIS home. Even my little one. The cops would have shot the dog no matter what the size of it.

70 posted on 02/02/2019 9:21:52 AM PST by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: TexasGator
Also neighbors referred to it as ‘the drug house’.

"•The couple was somewhat reclusive, according to an account that a neighbor gave to the Houston Chronicle. The neighbor told the newspaper that he would see Tuttle walking his dog, didn’t see Nicholas much, and indicated the couple had few visitors."

Neither had any prior criminal history.

71 posted on 02/02/2019 9:26:39 AM PST by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: eastexsteve
As far as they are concerned, you are damn sure doing something that you shouldn't. And they are going to find out what it is.

The Constitutional mandated,"Innocent until proven guilty to the exclusion of reasonable doubt", no longer applies. Hell, the Constitution itself no longer applies.Everyone except the Governmental Agents is guilty of some crime. And the Governmental Agents are going to ferret it out. Don't believe that? Look no further than today's FBI.

72 posted on 02/02/2019 9:28:41 AM PST by sport
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To: wgmalabama
Well the point is they may have made a mistake. 7815 HARDY Street instead of 7815 HARDING Street The average house with typical 60 year old couple car in the drive way was 7815 Harding street. The known drug house with security cameras, bars on windows was 7815 Hardy street. That’s a theory.

And cops are allowed to make all the mistakes they want without consequence.

Meanwhile, I, as a CCW holder, have to be VERY sure about who I shoot.

If I, for example, encounter a bum holding pointing a gun at a young woman, and I shoot him, and it turns out that he was a plainclothes cop making an arrest, then I'm in deep trouble, and it won't matter that I made a good-faith mistake. That was what I was taught in CCW class.

Cops, as professionals, need to be held to similarly high standards. If they enter the wrong residence, and get shot, then it should be the cops own fault, and the person exercising what he thought was self-defense should walk.

73 posted on 02/02/2019 9:31:52 AM PST by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: gaijin

They no longer care if the Citizens hate them or not.


74 posted on 02/02/2019 9:33:42 AM PST by sport
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To: MileHi

What is the source of your quote


75 posted on 02/02/2019 9:40:58 AM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: marktwain

I guess I’m dead meat.

Break into my house, shoot my dog, I’m reaching for my bedside table or gun rack and start shooting, too.

It’s getting bad when one can’t distinguish between the criminals and the cops.


76 posted on 02/02/2019 9:41:34 AM PST by RedMonqey ("Those who turn their arms in for plowshares will be doing the plowing for those who didn't.")
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To: bert
"They look like sterotypical(sp) East Tennessee low level drug dealers to me. ”

They look like hard working, hardscrabble East Tennesseans to me. Go to any local bar and meet people. Not everyone has the "Leave it to Beaver' family semblance.
77 posted on 02/02/2019 9:45:55 AM PST by RedMonqey ("Those who turn their arms in for plowshares will be doing the plowing for those who didn't.")
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To: unread
I don't think that pitbull cared one way or the other who or what was coming in that door, he was going to kill it.!

Let that be a lesson to all government agents: You work for us. And We the People are armed. Mind your manners.

78 posted on 02/02/2019 9:47:31 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: TexasGator

Heavy.com


79 posted on 02/02/2019 9:48:25 AM PST by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: PapaBear3625; camle; Alkhin; Professional Engineer; katana; Mr. Silverback; MadIvan; ...
The cops would have shot the dog no matter what the size of it.

Red Dwarf Ping!

HUDZEN: Just doing my job. It's not my fault if I love it!

80 posted on 02/02/2019 9:52:58 AM PST by null and void (Build the wall, or don't get paid at all.)
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