Posted on 01/31/2019 2:13:57 PM PST by Jyotishi
good call!
It doesn't even make common sen sense how can God send his Son earth if he is the Son himself.
Ok I just read it again. I personally don' t see how any rational reader can interpret God and Jesus are one and the same this IMO is a ridiculous conclusion. But you can believe what you want.
(and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth
God - Jesus, two separate entities.
Somebody dropped the ball then.
Oh, it gets better.
Since Jesus was fully God and fully human,
that makes the mother of Jesus the mother of God.
And since mothers always come before children,
Mary must have been present at the creation.
Soon, one of the Trinity will be bounced and we’ll
have that female deity humans crave.
Wow, I KNOW Jesus is God’s son so I guess I am going to hell. Along with Episcopal Priest that conformed all of us.
Where did this crazy poo poo start?
You can believe what you want but belief in the Holy Trinity is one of the pillars of the Christian faith.
Perhaps you should go to the church where you were confirmed and ask for either a more complete education or your money back.
Jeff the word itself trinity, the latin root tri means three, ‘3’ distinct things. Can you name them?
Very funny.
But a Muzzie islamofascist WOULD— to deflect attention. They did this in India during their troubles. Not many alive from then, but ask a Catholic from India who was. They would vandalize a key Hindu temple and use Christian symbols and phrases.... so the blame would be placed on Catholics.
As you said— No Christian, even a fanatic would write those words.
BTW- Hindu business people have told me— “the solution is simple— as we learned-— blow up their mosques because that is where they store their arms, ammo and explosives”. Serious they were.
Maybe AD 325, at the Nicene council? Someone will correct me if that is wrong.
Jesus was the SON of God. No idiot is ever going to change my mind on that.
consubstantial = does not mean God and Jesus were the same being.
Oh, I’m with you. I think it’s all
wishful thinking.
The Blessed Trinity consists of one God but three distinct persons: the Father, the Son, and the Holy spirit.
This is a foundation of Christianity, not some recent or secret knowledge, so either you are pretending not to know about it, in which case you’ve had your fun, good for you, or your knowledge of the faith is woefully deficient and you owe it to yourself to brush up your faith.
Either way I am of no further use to you so God bless you and let’s discuss something on another thread.
Agreed— as the Creed as originated in 325 Nicea and 381 Nicean Council and spread throughout all Christendom... ALL of it— always has included the concept of God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Ghost. That is, the Holy Trinity.
As the Anglican Hymn goes-— “God in Three Persons, Blessed Trinity” Three, co-eternal consubstantial persons— One God i n three Divine Persons.
A shared belief throughout all Christendom. And one that scares the hell out of the islamofascists and Mahometans.
Your standing before God is something you must address as I do not have the ability to see into your heart.
Can someone with Down’s syndrome be born again and inherit eternal life? Does such a person have the ability to comprehend enough theology to be saved?
Actually, Jesus said we have to become like little children to enter His kingdom. (He is the King of His kingdom after all.) I don’t think children know much theology. But they can and do love Jesus and instinctively worship Him as Savior.
Maybe it’s the adults and people who are just too smart who have the most trouble with the “simplicity” of the Gospel.
While I will not attempt to determine your current course and destiny, I will say that understanding and acknowledging the deity of Christ is fundamental to knowing Christ and who He is. And knowing Christ is fundamental to knowing God. Christ is the express image of the Father. If you do not have the Son, you do not have the Father.
Jesus was formed of the seed of the woman (Mary), making Him fully human. The eternal Son became a man as Mary conceived Him in her womb by the Holy Spirit. Because His Father is God, He Himself is not only fully human, but fully Divine, i.e. deity and the just recipient of our worship.
We know who God the Father is by knowing who Jesus is. We know who Jesus is by the scriptures and by receiving Him, and experiencing His presence through the indwelling Holy Spirit.
Those who have the Spirit will be able to comprehend spiritual matters such as the deity of Christ which are spiritually discerned. Those who do not have the Spirit do not have salvation yet, and are in need of coming to know Christ as He truly is.
To escape hell, one must turn from lies and false objects of worship to trust in Jesus Christ for forgiveness. He died for our sins, was buried, and rose again—all in fulfillment of prophecy. He was seen by hundreds of eye-witnesses after being raised from the dead. Those who believe on Him will also call on Him for salvation and will continue in obedience due to the transforming power of God in their lives.
If you do not know with certainty that you have received the gift of eternal life, now is the time to do so.
Even those who are 100% certain they have received Christ will continue to call on Him for salvation because we need to experience the outworking of salvation in our lives as we are delivered from this evil world, the Devil, and our own sinful tendencies. We all need frequent (perhaps even constant) reminding of the work of Christ on the cross and His resurrection with which we identify and through which we know Christ.
>>>I personally don’ t see how any rational reader can interpret God and Jesus are one and the same this IMO is a ridiculous conclusion
Did you miss the first verse?
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Do a Google news search for “church, vandalized”. Dozens within the last month, but where are the hate crime charges? Hmmm.
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