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National emergencies generally aren’t conditional, right?
Hotair.com ^ | January 27, 2019 | JAZZ SHAW

Posted on 01/27/2019 5:31:55 PM PST by Kaslin

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1 posted on 01/27/2019 5:31:56 PM PST by Kaslin
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Doesn’t matter, a judge will strike it down.


2 posted on 01/27/2019 5:38:48 PM PST by Husker24
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I wonder what could possibly lower the bar on what constitutes a National Emergency any lower the 30 million uninsured Americans constituting a national health care emergency? Or the climate change emergency? Democrats have already set the bar so low as to be virtually nonexistent.
3 posted on 01/27/2019 5:39:08 PM PST by dogger
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Nonsense, cancer is an emergency. First try one treatment, if that doesn’t fix, try another. Multiple ways to attack doesn’t mean it isn’t an emergency the whole time.


4 posted on 01/27/2019 5:39:42 PM PST by TheBullWat
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Umm, first Democrats have a little thing to handle in California - CalFresh - the ‘agency’ that distributes ‘food stamps’ (read EBT) benefits in California, decided to distribute funds early for February. Many have already used all their benefits. They have nothing for February. It is of course the government’s problem to fix...

Nancy, they know where you live.


5 posted on 01/27/2019 5:39:57 PM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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“What if President Kamala Harris (God forbid) or some other Democrat decides that gun violence is a national emergency and starts summarily confiscating guns?”

The consequence of such action would be a grave mistake.


6 posted on 01/27/2019 5:44:24 PM PST by Rebelbase
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Measles outbreak in Washington could help with emergency argument


7 posted on 01/27/2019 5:46:33 PM PST by lonestar67 (America is exceptional)
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Anything that requires action in all of the counties and parishes in the country often requires to cooperation of the sheriff. Sheriffs have gone on record from time to time stating they will not enforce certain laws. The feds don’t have enough personnel to effect mass seizures across the country.

One other point. The local game warden would not go into one local area. He already experienced a near miss. He lived to retire.


8 posted on 01/27/2019 5:48:34 PM PST by meatloaf
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Obama declared national emergencies for swine flu, Iraq, and cybercrime.

Clinton declared at least 13 in his 8 years... most were recurring declarations... They were premised upon problems with Iran (every year since 1979), Libya (since 1986), Iraq (since 1990), Yugoslavia (since 1992), proliferation of weapons of mass destruction (since 1993), UNITA (Angolan anti-communists, since 1993), Middle East terrorism (since 1995), Colombian drug dealers (since 1995), Cuba (since 1996), Burma (since 1997), and Sudan (since 1997). Even the expiration of a statute, the Export Administration Act of 1979, caused President Clinton to declare and renew a state of national emergency every year from 94-99.

The 13th, inspired by conditions in Haiti, was in force from 1992 until revoked in 1994.

9 posted on 01/27/2019 5:48:36 PM PST by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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It’s ALREADY a national emergency, Jazz you idiot.


10 posted on 01/27/2019 5:51:10 PM PST by CivilWarBrewing (Get off my back for my usage of CAPS, especially you snowflake males! MAN UP!)
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I am sick to death of the selfish, self centered people who don’t think it’s an emergency.

When the twin towers were hit, the country didn’t think twice. We went to war, it was an emergency. When there are floods, fire, hurricanes, tornados the country opened their hearts and wallets....because it was an emergency. Now we need help and those Whitney SOBs say “we don’t want a wall”. OK, but don’t think we won’t remember that you didn’t care what we go through.


11 posted on 01/27/2019 5:52:21 PM PST by McGavin999 (Border security without a wall is like having a Ring doorbell without a door)
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It will be in effect for about 15 seconds before the 9th circuit tosses an injunction that way.


12 posted on 01/27/2019 5:53:10 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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President Trump has declared three emergencies during his time in office, dealing with human rights abuses (December 20, 2017), sanctioning those attempting to interfere in U.S. elections (September 12, 2018), and – like Reagan – one dealing with Nicaragua (November 27, 2018).


13 posted on 01/27/2019 5:54:33 PM PST by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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Congress enacted the National Emergencies Act on September 14, 1976, two months before Jimmy Carter was elected president. Since that time and beginning with Carter, presidents have declared 58 states of emergency. 31 are currently in effect. The Wall would merely be #32.


14 posted on 01/27/2019 5:55:35 PM PST by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: Vermont Lt

WRONG....this will be about communicable diseases, and will be bullet-proof.


15 posted on 01/27/2019 5:57:00 PM PST by txhurl (whoa)
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Surely there are some other clever ways to obtain construction funding than this.

Agreed. I'm sure President Trump has his finest minds working on this. I suspect he has told them to concentrate on finding a way that can't be stopped by a judge.

Who knows, maybe there is.

16 posted on 01/27/2019 6:10:40 PM PST by upchuck (Bruce Jenner is still a man. Homosexuality is still sin. The culture may change. The Bible does not.)
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“What if President Kamala Harris (God forbid) or some other Democrat decides that gun violence is a national emergency and starts summarily confiscating guns? “


That is exactly what could happen.

“Through the insidious yet steady encroachment of “emergency powers” the government has now achieved the ability to rule the people by statute or decree, without the vote or the consent of the ruled. Through a maze of political maneuvers, the emergency powers granted to President Roosevelt in 1933 to deal with an economic depression have become part of the US Code as permanent everyday powers.” - source: “Constitution Fact or Fiction” -Dr. Eugene Schroder.

Senate Report 93-549 (1973):

Since March 9, 1933, the United States has been in a state of declared national emergency...A majority of the people of the United States have lived all their lives under emergency rule. for 40 years (written in 1973) freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the constitution have, in varying degrees been abridged by laws brought into force by states of National emergency. In the United States, actions taken by government in times of great crisis have...in important ways shaped the present phenomenon of a permanent state of National emergency”.

“These proclamations give force to 470 provisions of federal law. These hundreds of statutes delegate to the President extraordinary powers, ordinarily exercised by Congress, which affect the lives of American citizens in a host of all-encompassing manners. This vast range of powers taken together, confer enough authority to rule this country without reference to normal constitutional process.


As far as I know, this is still the current situation.

It should be worthy of debate.


17 posted on 01/27/2019 6:16:31 PM PST by Captain7seas (UNexit. Make America Great Again!)
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To: Teacher317

See 17


18 posted on 01/27/2019 6:18:37 PM PST by Captain7seas (UNexit. Make America Great Again!)
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What I hear from many is the border is not their problem because they don’t live here so they don’t want their tax money spent here. Very few people live here in remote areas where smugglers and criminals pass through the desert. I know our voices are small and our votes don’t really matter but I see us as the canary in the coal mine. Warning of the dangers but most are not paying attention.

I guess those people think all the problems that cross this border stay right here at the border; all the drugs, people being trafficked for sex and work, ETC... What I call stunningly stupid. The problems at the border don’t stay here, they travel through here to every part of the country. They cost every single American money every single day. They kill people all over the country. They are a constant drain on social services, education, healthcare, law enforcement, courts, jails...on and on...

To be honest those of us who live here have been dealing with border issues for a long, long time. We can continue to do so. What galls most of us is the damage being done to our country and to our people. So it seems we are more concerned about our country and people who live all over this country than many Americans are about us or themselves.

The cartels control the Mexican side of the entire border. They at least partly control some places on our side of the border now. If we don’t control our border they will. It is that simple.


19 posted on 01/27/2019 6:27:00 PM PST by Tammy8
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We have all sorts of national emergencies and presidents routinely extend them, and their predecessors emergencies.

We have had them for much less and much more abstract nebulous things than actually securing the border, something fedgov is actually required to do.


20 posted on 01/27/2019 6:39:15 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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