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Confederate plaque in Texas Capitol to come down after vote
WFAA ^ | January 11, 2019 | Jason Whitely

Posted on 01/11/2019 5:16:40 AM PST by TexasGunLover

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To: Bull Snipe; rockrr
[Bull Snipe]: Doesn’t read to me that he “urged” anything vis-à-vis the Corwin Amendment.

[rockkr]: No reasonable reading of the address, the surrounding correspondence, or reporting from the time would come to the conclusion that Lincoln “supported”, advocated”, or “pushed” the amendment. His stated position was neutral.

Here is some history detective work that strongly suggests Lincoln's apparent involvement in the Corwin Amendment: Link to some of Phil Magness's work

Apart from Magness's work related to the Corwin amendment on the link above, there is clear evidence that Lincoln felt the Constitution demanded a fugitive slave law, and while a congressman in the 1840s he himself had written his own fugitive slave law into his proposed bill (which did not pass) to free slaves in Washington DC. His proposed bill would have allowed slave owners to recover their fugitive slaves who escaped into DC.

Feet of clay, that Lincoln guy.

181 posted on 01/12/2019 11:23:05 AM PST by rustbucket
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To: FLT-bird
If they come to that state to live then they establish residency there and that is not covered by their transit rights.

You really need to read the Confederate Constitution. Trying to continue this discussion when you obviously haven't really isn't going to lead anywhere.

Confederate Constitution

182 posted on 01/12/2019 12:01:22 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Bull Snipe
President and leader of the party saying he has "no objection", is a dog whistle to signal his party that they will face no repercussions from him for voting for it.

If he wasn't supporting it, he would have said nothing about it.

Also, he signed all those letters notifying the governors that the Corwin amendment had passed both houses of congress.

Again, it's a signal to support the amendment. The president has no official role in the constitutional amendment process. He took on this role to assist in the passage of the amendment.

183 posted on 01/12/2019 12:19:14 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Bull Snipe
Wasn't his responsibility. Him sending those letters is a nod for them to support that amendment. He had no obligation to send them what so every, and an opposed man would have refused to do so.

Would you send a letter notifying a governor that an amendment to strengthen slavery has passed the congress?

Would you do that? I would absolutely refuse. They can find out whatever way, but it wouldn't be through me.

184 posted on 01/12/2019 12:21:22 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DoodleDawg

You really need to read the Confederate Constitution. Trying to continue this discussion when you obviously haven’t really isn’t going to lead anywhere.

I’ve read it and your interpretation differs considerably from others I have read.


185 posted on 01/12/2019 12:24:01 PM PST by FLT-bird
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To: DiogenesLamp

just like all those dog whistles that Trump sends out to let all know he supports the Russians and hates blacks.
Got it.


186 posted on 01/12/2019 12:24:52 PM PST by Bull Snipe
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To: FLT-bird
When you start to look at Lincoln as a cagey con man who was a master at politics and who would tell people what they wanted to hear, you start to notice there is quite a lot of support for this view of him.

He was a master at dirty politics, and most especially bribery and intimidation. Even his law cases show a tendency to play games with the law, in the manner of all the other sleazy lawyers.

187 posted on 01/12/2019 12:25:06 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

Then why did Buchanan sign it.


188 posted on 01/12/2019 12:25:29 PM PST by Bull Snipe
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To: DiogenesLamp

Yep. It was his fellow lawyers who gave him the nickname “honest Abe”. They meant that in the same sense that you’d call a tall guy “shorty” or a fat guy “slim”.


189 posted on 01/12/2019 12:37:13 PM PST by FLT-bird
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To: bert
MLK day is totally offensive

what is so offensive about celebrating the death of MLK??

190 posted on 01/12/2019 12:37:44 PM PST by TheRightGuy
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To: TheRightGuy
what is so offensive about celebrating the death of MLK??

The holiday would have to be in April to do that.

191 posted on 01/12/2019 12:52:47 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: FLT-bird
It was his fellow lawyers who gave him the nickname “honest Abe”. They meant that in the same sense that you’d call a tall guy “shorty” or a fat guy “slim”.

Source for that?

192 posted on 01/12/2019 12:54:40 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: FLT-bird
I’ve read it and your interpretation differs considerably from others I have read.

So you're depending on the opinions of other people who have actually read it?

193 posted on 01/12/2019 12:57:08 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

So you’re depending on the opinions of other people who have actually read it?

No need as I can rely on my own opinion for that.


194 posted on 01/12/2019 1:02:54 PM PST by FLT-bird
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To: DoodleDawg

Source for that?

Look for yourself. Try doing some reading - and not just from his hagiographers.

Oh and I’ll spare you the “need” to try to go back and forth with this 10 times. I’m not playing this little game with you.


195 posted on 01/12/2019 1:04:13 PM PST by FLT-bird
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To: FLT-bird
Look for yourself. Try doing some reading - and not just from his hagiographers.

Somehow I knew that would be your response.

196 posted on 01/12/2019 1:05:44 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: FLT-bird
No need as I can rely on my own opinion for that.

Of course you can.

197 posted on 01/12/2019 1:06:48 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

Somehow I knew that would be your response.

Just as I knew you’d try the standard trolling 101 technique.


198 posted on 01/12/2019 1:14:08 PM PST by FLT-bird
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To: DoodleDawg

Of course you can.

Good. Glad we’ve settled that.


199 posted on 01/12/2019 1:14:32 PM PST by FLT-bird
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To: Bull Snipe
Those are fake. The president signing the document indicates he approves. I wouldn't sign it. Would you sign it?

Decent people would have had nothing to do with it.

200 posted on 01/12/2019 1:56:05 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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