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Posted on 12/26/2018 3:07:30 AM PST by a little elbow grease

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61 posted on 12/26/2018 11:44:03 AM PST by simpson96
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To: Swordmaker
"You miss the point. It was NEVER nationally lowered to 18 during WWII."

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LOL

Hey 'pointmaker', was it ever lowered to 18 in 1971?

62 posted on 12/26/2018 11:45:14 AM PST by a little elbow grease (Duct tape and cable ties have more worth than pussy hats and resistance.)
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To: miss marmelstein

Yeah, was traveling over Thanksgiving weekend with some guy who accused me of being a Chatty Cathy. :)


63 posted on 12/26/2018 12:10:24 PM PST by del griffith
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To: a little elbow grease

Ah yes, those pesky utes!


64 posted on 12/26/2018 1:02:01 PM PST by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: del griffith

Oh, I see, lol! He was a loveable guy, though.


65 posted on 12/26/2018 1:07:02 PM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: zerosix

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hu8tX2BAD1k

-—— the two yutes
(Excuse me, but I didn’t know if you saw this.....)


66 posted on 12/26/2018 2:08:50 PM PST by a little elbow grease (Duct tape and cable ties have more worth than pussy hats and resistance.)
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To: a little elbow grease
Yeah this is THE one! At this very moment, I have TiVoed this very video at my home and began watching it.

Other than some very vulgar dialogue, I have laughed myself silly!

67 posted on 12/26/2018 3:37:56 PM PST by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: loveliberty2

We got this way when we decided we are smarter than God.
We ignore history because it is full of old people with old ideas.
We ignore logic and reason because they are used to set traps for true believers.
We reject morals because they prevent us from doing what feels good.
We follow leaders who promise to give us bright shiny things for our votes.
We hate anyone who makes us feel bad.
We do not believe in God because we are smart.
We are lost and on some deep and terrible level we know it.


68 posted on 12/26/2018 9:17:21 PM PST by Louis Foxwell (The denial of the authority of God is the central plank of the Progressive movement.)
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To: zerosix
I have laughed myself silly! ---

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Yes.

Marisa Tomei's brilliant closing explanation about the different cars was great to watch. I just saw it again last night on tv.

Very funny movie.

69 posted on 12/27/2018 2:30:22 AM PST by a little elbow grease (Duct tape and cable ties have more worth than pussy hats and resistance.)
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To: del griffith
So why when I go to Wal-Mart, things like big screen tvs don’t get applied to an EBT card?

That part of the story made little sense. She's holding the card while trying to put the TV in a car?

70 posted on 12/27/2018 3:21:28 AM PST by Loud Mime (Liberalism: intolerance masquerading as tolerance)
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To: jimfree

Have you been on any Hillsdale cruises? We see them advertised in “Imprimis” and wonder how they are. (The cost is HIGH!)


71 posted on 12/27/2018 3:31:00 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (Great things never come from comfort zones.)
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To: Loud Mime

That’s why I think elements of it have been created vs what really happened. Which I find strange from Hansen. This sort of undermines his credibility.


72 posted on 12/27/2018 5:39:44 AM PST by del griffith
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To: MayflowerMadam

No Hillsdale or any other cruises for now. Does not fit our budget or schedule. We are blessed to be near many things as we live inside the DC Beltway. The Hillsdale Kirby Center in DC is an easy drive or metro ride. I have seen a number of great speakers also at Federalist Society, Cato Institute, American Enterprise Institute, and Leadership Institute events. Some of those are cheap or free.


73 posted on 12/27/2018 6:24:11 AM PST by jimfree (My18 y/o granddaughter continues to have more quality exec experience than an 8 year Obama.)
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To: del griffith

I’ve learned that some of these “Patriotic” people are big time phonies. I’ve worked with a couple of highly respected conservative speakers and learned that they are in it for the money. One turned out to be a total ass when $$$ was involved, yet is a puppy dog in his PR. The women who worked for him were scared of him. Never another penny, ever.

I now have trouble believing the new-age history books. Give me the old stuff.


74 posted on 12/27/2018 8:50:39 PM PST by Loud Mime (Liberalism: intolerance masquerading as tolerance)
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To: a little elbow grease
"You seem to have missed the QUESTION."

No, I did not not miss the question. You seem to have problems understanding the answer. You have imagined historical facts which never occurred - that FDR lowered the voting age from 21 to 18 years of age "sometime" during WWII. Additionally, that the voting age must have then been raised from 18 to 21 at some mysterious time after WWII but before 1971.

The Congress passed legislation, on November 11,1942 which FDR signed that lowered the draft age from 21 to 18 years of age. No legislation was ever passed during WWII to lower the voting age. The Federal Congress did not have the power to force the States to lower the voting age by legislation, hence the need to propose a Constitutional Amendment to lower the State and Federal voting age from 21 to 18 years of age. States may lower the voting age below 18 for non-Federal offices if they so desire.

dvwjr

75 posted on 12/28/2018 4:40:36 PM PST by dvwjr
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You said all that before.

You are being purposefully obtuse.

I will avoid you in the future on this site. People like you only look for an argument.

If you don't understand a simple question that is your loss.

If you cannot acknowledge that governmental entities chose to LOWER the voting age in 1971 from a higher age previously, then you are not attempting to be honest.

WHY would the age need to be lowered if it actually wasn't higher in the first place? (NO, don't answer .......... you are JUST OBTUSE.)

76 posted on 12/29/2018 2:22:20 AM PST by a little elbow grease (Duct tape and cable ties have more worth than pussy hats and resistance.)
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To: dvwjr
I just went to reread some things on the matter.

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From Wiki:

"Lowering the minimum voting age was not a new idea. In the United States, some people started trying to get the voting age lowered during World War II. During the war, President Franklin D. Roosevelt lowered the military draft age to 18. This meant that men as young as 18 could be forced to join the military. To many people, it did not seem fair that the government thought these young men were old enough to fight a world war, but not old enough to vote in the country they were fighting for. "Old enough to fight, old enough to vote" became a common slogan.

United States Senator Harley Kilgore had begun supporting a lowered voting age in 1941. Many other Senators, Representatives, and the First Lady, Eleanor Roosevelt, supported the idea. However, Congress NEVER made any changes.

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As you can see here ..... I WAS WRONG.

Allow me to place my head in the sand. Please pull me out for the football games tomorrow afternoon.

Sorry for my incorrect words. (I think I mistook "draft age changes" during WWII for "voting age changes".)

;-)

77 posted on 12/29/2018 2:33:59 AM PST by a little elbow grease (Duct tape and cable ties have more worth than pussy hats and resistance.)
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