Navy To Begin Arming Subs With Ship-Killer Missile

Breaking Defense ^ | December 18, 2018 | PAUL MCLEARY

[TangledUpInBlue]

I’m surprised to learn that they removed these in the first place.

[Bishop_Malachi]

Exactly...this is like seeing a news article that says, “Army to Begin Equipping Its Forces with Lethal Weapons.”

[Zhang Fei]

I am impressed that a 5000 ton LST took a significant amount of munitions to sink.

[PeterPrinciple]

In late 2010, plans for an updated U.S. Navy version of the Harpoon Block II began to formalize. The Harpoon Block II+ provides a rapid-capability enhancement for the Navy that includes a new GPS guidance kit, reliability and survivability of the weapon, a new data link interface that enables in-flight updates, improved target selectivity, an abort option and enhanced resistance to electronic countermeasures. When fielded to the fleet in the fourth quarter of Fiscal Year 2017, Harpoon Block II+ will join the Joint Standoff Weapon C-1 as the Navy�s only two air-to-ground network-enabled weapons. -https://www.navy.mil/navydata/fact_display.asp?cid=2200&tid=200&ct=2 ---------------- mixed feelings about the abort option?

[PeterPrinciple]

Over the last handful of years, the Pentagon has made a concerted effort to get its ship-killing ability back, first under Obama’s last Defense Secretary Ash Carter and his deputy Bob Work — part of what they called the Third Offset Strategy — and under Defense Secretary Jim Mattis, whose focus on “lethality” picked up the offset effort under a new tagline.

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Liberal support all the way down?

[PeterPrinciple]

http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/22184/watch-uss-recine-get-pummeled-to-death-during-rimpac-2018-sinking-exercise

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The ship it was tested on...………….

[PeterPrinciple]

I am impressed that a 5000 ton LST took a significant amount of munitions to sink.

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I would suspect the “power punch” was reduced to extend the exercise.

[central_va]

That’s with no crew doing damage control, every water tight door open and dead in the water.

[central_va]

“power punch”

WTH?

[TheShaz]

The missile hits ended its fighting capacity.

The torpedo ended its ability to float.

The missile hits would have had more secondary explosions from munitions and/or fuel on an active man-o-war.

The US Navy is big on damage control training. How are the Chinese on DC?

[central_va]

The missile hits ended its fighting capacity.

One hit, no. It would definitely be up for weeks of repairs. But Navy ships are designed to be damaged and repaired. The assumption is that it will take hits.

Torpedoes are another matter. If a ship survives a torpedo hit ( 50-50 chance ) and can make it back to port it will need a dry dock. Sometimes it's just not worth it.

[Kommodor]

It’s the below the waterline hits that count the most. Most of the ASM’s probably didn’t cause much (any) flooding.

Kind of like Billy Mitchell’s tests on the Ostfriesland. All the little bombs didn’t do a whole lot, it took a huge bomb to bring her down.

Tirpitz too.

[Rebelbase]

Any info on the destructive power difference between a Harpoon and a tomahawk with conventional warheads?

[central_va]

Tomahawk has a 1,000 lb warhead, Harpoon 500 lb.

[Rebelbase]

I guess the Harpoon has a delivery advantage over the tomahawk?

[whistleduck]

Harpoon is an unimpressive weapon and long in the tooth.

I hope it is significantly upgraded, counter countermeasured, and at least 4 times faster than the original.

[central_va]

An LST is a ship made for amphibious landings. One prerequisite of an amphibious landing is air superiority; meaning NO cruise missile threat. So the LST type ships are at no risk from missile strikes. The biggest threat to amphibious ships are mines, which can be devastating.

[central_va]

I am not familiar with the tactical use of tomahawks but very familiar with harpoons. Harpoons are usually, but not always, fired in salvos.

[mad_as_he$$]

Price.