How Hyundai Motor, once a rising star, lost its shine

Reuters ^ | November 4, 2018 / 5:13 PM | Hyunjoo Jin, Ben Klayman, Yilei Sun

[prophetic]

I have a 2010 Kia Optima and I do mostly highway driving. I’m very pleased with the 30 mpg it gives me.

[minnesota_bound]

#18 My daughter had a 2005 Hyundai Accent

Is your daughter from South Korea?... : )

[Impala64ssa]

As small as it was that Accent had a little more front seat leg room than my 64 Chevy. It didn’t have much of a back seat, though, it was a 2 seater for all intents and purposes. :)

[TexasGator]

“Its a nifty ride with all the goodies but a little too pricey for me. “

Good value buying used one as it has the highest first year depreciation.

[Brown Deer]

My fully loaded Sonata was about $5K less than that.

[Brown Deer]

Do they now, actually have cars on all those near empty freeways?

[sparklite2]

So it’s going with turbo 4’s.

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I had a Chrysler LeBaron with a turbo 4. I raced a Mustang V8 off a traffic light in California once and beat him. He said, “I gotta get a tuneup!” It was a terrific motor, but was so hot, it scorched the paint off the hood.

[Zhang Fei]

[I had a Chrysler LeBaron with a turbo 4. I raced a Mustang V8 off a traffic light in California once and beat him. He said, “I gotta get a tuneup!” It was a terrific motor, but was so hot, it scorched the paint off the hood.]

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Decades later, turbos are still occasionally problematic:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-autos-honda/japans-honda-to-recall-350000-cars-in-china-over-engine-issue-idUSKBN1FW124

China’s consumer protection agency is strong-arming Honda into extending the CRV’s warranty. You don’t generally hear of them doing this to Chinese car companies, despite reliability problems being a much bigger issue there.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-honda-china-recall/honda-stops-selling-new-cr-vs-in-china-after-recall-plan-rejected-idUSKCN1GE1P8

[Zhang Fei]

[Do they now, actually have cars on all those near empty freeways?]

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Chinese highways are near empty because they’re mostly (95%) tollways. As a result, local roads are extremely congested.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-roads-debt/china-chalks-up-667-billion-debt-pile-over-toll-roads-idUSKCN11R0NX
https://www.theepochtimes.com/what-chinas-highway-robbery-style-toll-roads-say-about-its-economy_2178907.html

[Manic_Episode]

"Did you test-drive both?"

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Naw, I'm poor. Found a 2012 with 16,000 miles for 18k.