[Wuli]

Kashoggi was no friend of the west, no matter how bad the Saudi Royals are. Kashoggi was a member of the Muslim Brotherhood and very close with the Islamist Erdogan.

No, I am not making any excuse for the Saudis, but at the same time I understand what they think they are up against over time in Saudi Arabia with the Muslim Brotherhood and I understand western media is wrongly portraying Kashoogi as “one of the good guys”. He wasn’t, no matter how much he cultivated that image of himself with westerners.

[2CAVTrooper]

I don’t see any reason to be upset about this.

Maybe we can send some of our media to the same embassy? Starting with jim acosta, gaychel madcow, cwhizz matthews, don lemmon, jake tapper, shemp smith, etc.

[SaxxonWoods]

Oooh, how scary.

Pfffht.

[Nifster]

Sure thing...keep your oil...your only fungible product. Send home our boys and ALL of our military equipment. Fight the mussie brotherhood on your own....and Iran too

[Wuli]

It surprises me sometimes when Conservatives forget (1) that the Left is in charge of the media views on foreign policy, and (2) with so few white hats in the Middle East, a Middle East opponent of someone else in the Middle East is not necessarily our friend.

No, I do not not believe the Saudis have ever been our true friends, no matter how much our foreign policy establishment has sucked up Saudi myths aboout themselves and portrayed US as their friends.

Well, the new Middle East masters at creating myths about themselves are Middle East members of the Muslim Brotherhood - like Kashoogi, pretending to be all for “democratic” solutions for the Middle East. It is a long range well orchestrated well-funded agenda of “peaceful subversion” all across the west. And, apparently the Saudis are onto it.

[piytar]

(1) "In truth, Khashoggi never had much time for western-style pluralistic democracy. In the 1970s he joined the Muslim Brotherhood, which exists to rid the Islamic world of western influence. He was a political Islamist until the end, recently praising the Muslim Brotherhood in the Washington Post. He championed the ‘moderate’ Islamist opposition in Syria, whose crimes against humanity are a matter of record. Khashoggi frequently sugarcoated his Islamist beliefs with constant references to freedom and democracy. But he never hid that he was in favour of a Muslim Brotherhood arc throughout the Middle East. His recurring plea to bin Salman in his columns was to embrace not western-style democracy, but the rise of political Islam which the Arab Spring had inadvertently given rise to. For Khashoggi, secularism was the enemy."

See here (Spectator)

(2) The US is close to self-sufficient for oil now. Thank you fracking. That means the Saudis don't have much of a club to use.

(3) I smell a bunch of grandstanding.

[BeauBo]

The same guy who broke this “story” - Michael Isikoff _ is the same guy who broke the Trump dossier “story”.

Smells fishy - like someone wants to create a wedge in the US Saudi relationship, and a messy fight/foreign policy disaster going into the midterms.

Probably best not to listen to what the media says that other people said, but rather have the White House on the phone to Riyadh.

And if the Saudis did kill Khashoggi, they did us a favor. We are spending money and have our guys out there everyday trying to kill radical islamist extremists, and Khashoggi is/was one of the big fish.

[Dogbert41]

If it’s true that the “Journalist” was Muslim Brotherhood, then we should avoid by all means getting in the way of the Saudies’ purge.

[marron]

One thing that is plain is that whoever is behind the murder wanted this to be public and in-your-face.

The Saudis have no compunction about killing a political enemy, but usuallly its something deniable, a car wreck, or something. Even in Turkey they could have ordered a hit that would have been deniable even if everyone knew they were behind it.

In this case, whoever it was wanted it to be known that it was them. So we only have to determine if it was the Crown Prince, or one of his enemies. Having done it publicly, they are practically demanding that we take some action in response. The question is, why?

[Wilderness Conservative]

15 of the 19 tells me all I need to know about SA. We laid down with that dog and woke up with mange.

[StormEye]

I'm trying to figure out why this Khashoggi/Saudi consulate
incident is America's business. Khashoggi was
not an American citizen. He is a citizen of Saudi
Arabia. The incident occurred in a foreign country,
and in a foreign consulate.
I understand he had a green card to work
in America. But that doesn't mean he is entitled to the
protections and rights of an American citizen while abroad.

Khashoggi was an enemy of America, Christianity and the
Western World in general. It's not in America's interest to
to involve itself in this affair other than for purely humanitarian reasons.

Inquiries should be made to the Saudis concerning Khashoggi's
location and well being, but threatening the Saudis
over this is not unnecessary.

[Eternal_Bear]

The Saudis have spent a hundred billion dollars exporting their fanatical-terrorist version of islam all over the world. Their jihadi mercs here are telling us that they are such wonderful allies. The truth is that the world would be better off without them.