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Kaiser HMO and AMA embrace millenial doctor's demand for socialized healthcare in the name of "social justice". All according to plan...
1 posted on 08/08/2018 12:47:50 PM PDT by MarchonDC09122009
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THat’s because there are no more doctors. They are corporate employees forced to be that way due to burdensome lawsuits that they have no exposure too.


30 posted on 08/08/2018 1:07:26 PM PDT by Harpotoo
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Are We Going the Way of Rome?

By Lawrence W. Reed, published on Sept. 1, 2001 (FEE)

Rome brochure(Editor’s note: This publication was updated in July 2010.

There’s an old story worth retelling about a band of wild hogs which lived along a river in a secluded area of Georgia. These hogs were a stubborn, ornery, independent bunch. They had survived floods, fires, freezes, droughts, hunters, dogs and everything else. No one thought they could ever be captured.

One day a stranger came into town not far from where the hogs lived and went into the general store. He asked the storekeeper, “Where can I find the hogs? I want to capture them.” The storekeeper laughed at such a claim but pointed in the general direction. The stranger left with his one-horse wagon, an ax and a few sacks of corn.

Two months later, he returned, went back to the store, and asked for help to bring the hogs out. He said he had them all penned up in the woods. People were amazed and came from miles around to hear him tell the story of how he did it.

“The first thing I did,” the stranger said, “was to clear a small area of the woods with my ax. Then I put some corn in the center of the clearing. At first, none of the hogs would take the corn. Then after a few days, some of the young ones would come out, snatch some corn, and then scamper back into the underbrush. Then the older ones began taking the corn, probably figuring that if they didn’t get it, some of the other ones would. Soon they were all eating the corn. They stopped grubbing for acorns and roots on their own.

“About that time, I started building a fence around the clearing, a little higher each day. At the right moment, I built a trap door and sprung it. Naturally, they squealed and hollered when they knew I had them, but I can pen any animal on the face of the earth if I can first get him to depend on me for a free handout!”

The moral to that story happens to be the connecting link between the course of ancient Rome and the path which America has been taking for much of the last century.


33 posted on 08/08/2018 1:10:39 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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The AMA is about as much about doctors as the Teacher’s Unions are about teachers.

They are nothing more than a branch of the DNC.


34 posted on 08/08/2018 1:11:29 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Orange is the new brown)
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The AMA only represents a tiny fraction of MD’s.
Many are academics and administrators.


39 posted on 08/08/2018 1:22:07 PM PDT by Kozak (DIVERSITY+PROXIMITY=CONFLICT)
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Well, most new doctors in the US are Chinese or Indian, so....


40 posted on 08/08/2018 1:22:31 PM PDT by mikeus_maximus (The Truth does not require our agreement.)
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So who do I blame when the promises never come to fruition? Names please.

BTW, this is personal. It is a personal attack on me and may family’s financial well being. It is much like a robber robbing me at gun point.


43 posted on 08/08/2018 1:25:27 PM PDT by dhs12345
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Once its greatest foes, doctors are embracing single payer (AMA Socialized medicine)

They think they will be able to go home from the clinic when they want, take a vacation when they want, quit when they want, and leave the country to practice elsewhere when they want.

Surprise.

44 posted on 08/08/2018 1:27:02 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (America NEEDS Mob Rule, another European and Mid East World War and a universal Draft)
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These stupid children believe they will still be able to earn the big money of prestigious doctors once the only source of pay is the government. Once they are forced to accept the money offered, incur an increased number of patients and work the hours necessary to fulfill their fantasies, the kids won’t be so happy after all.


45 posted on 08/08/2018 1:28:37 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (When your business model depends on slave labor, you're always going to need more slaves.)
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Unaffordable. Death panels. Substandard, terrible “care.”

All the left-wing quacks who support “Medicare for all” can pay a top tax rate of 95%. “Educated” idiots.


46 posted on 08/08/2018 1:31:02 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Washington is NOT a swamp.....It's a cesspool!)
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47 posted on 08/08/2018 1:37:44 PM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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Single Payer Pro's Single Payer Con's
48 posted on 08/08/2018 1:43:02 PM PDT by DannyTN
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its medical student caucus seized an opportunity for change.

Medical students today are comprised mostly of foreign nationals or children of foreign nationals so that is not unexpected.

I have a family of physicians and not one of them support a single payer system.......

50 posted on 08/08/2018 1:47:46 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (I once found a needle in a haystack but it wasn't the one I was looking for...)
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Have these clucks done any reading on Great Britain's NHS?

It might be worthwhile doing so before they throw their careers in with them.

51 posted on 08/08/2018 1:47:50 PM PDT by Gritty (This is what the other side is all about. Hate and bullshit is their political platform.-DJ Trump Jr)
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Single payer has always been the plan even though single payer has never been proven to solve any problems but create new ones. The VA system and Canada are a prime examples. Destroying our healthcare system is part of the leftist plan along with conflating the issues of healthcare and health insurance. Adding the “social justice” BS and health care human “right” garbage is fodder for stupid American sheeple.


53 posted on 08/08/2018 2:03:38 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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British healthcare mediocrity bump for later.....


55 posted on 08/08/2018 2:05:11 PM PDT by indthkr
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And ancillary effect would, more than likely, be shoddy or politically driven medicinal research, with intent to rush to market to save cost.

Example: costs estimated $88,000 to treat patient on dialysis.

Research study shows kidneys infected with hepatitis safe for transplants. One study, not repeated testing. If the study gives the “desired” results one can see it implemented without future tests or research.

Plus how many nephrologists will be churning out of medical school?

Link: https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2018/08/07/Hepatitis-infected-kidneys-safe-for-transplants-study-says/2451533651210/?sl=2


57 posted on 08/08/2018 2:11:18 PM PDT by CharlesMartelsGhost
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if anyone still remembered Obamatard’s retarded stage production about Obamacare on TV and he rolled out these doctors, they were all AMA members...


59 posted on 08/08/2018 2:21:35 PM PDT by beergarden
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socialized medicine:

Egalitarianism + price controls + bureaucratization =

-increased aggregate demand for medical services
-increased total costs
-decreased supply of doctors = shortages of doctors
-decreased quality and quantity of medical services for each individual patient
-decreased value of each individual patient to a provider
-enslavement of doctors
-death panels
-decreased technological advances and decreased technological progress

62 posted on 08/08/2018 2:32:18 PM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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This is bad. It was doctors in Canada he essentially pushed for universal healthcare in the 1950s.

It is a tough job being in general practice in Canada. You have to run and pay for office rent and staff, but are constrained on your charge backs to the Ministry of Health.

Specialists do much better, especially hospital staff, since you are staff, and don’t have to worry about billing and over head like a general has to.


64 posted on 08/08/2018 2:34:39 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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I’m a physician who won’t give a dime to the AMA. That organization betrayed us. That said, a 2-tiered system is inevitable. A large “public option” is likely to be introduced within a generation. Why? The demographics of the newly-trained MD is most certainly more female and leftist (redundant). Need I say more?


65 posted on 08/08/2018 2:35:46 PM PDT by BlueStateRightist (Government is best which governs least.)
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