Posted on 08/04/2018 5:32:26 PM PDT by rktman
When we took my husband’s’98 jaguar on a trip to Illinois, we could not find real gas there. It drove my husband nuts to have to put ethanol in his beautiful toy, but we had no choice. We buy REAL gas for all our cars if at all possible. When we finally got rid of our 2000 Buick LeSabre had almost 300,000 miles on it. And it still ran great, but a lot of little things were wearing out.
I 2nd you on all that!
Bingo! Who is the stupid idiot that allowed this to happen?! I was shop foreman at a big and busy auto dealership when Ethanol showed up. There began a steady stream of broken down cars being towed in. All of them with wasted fuel pumps. The pumps were made of aluminum and the “new gas” was corroding them. Why? Precisely because, “Ethanol enables gasoline to mix with water.” It wasn’t the Ethanol that was eating the fuel pumps, it was the water! Just about all fuel tanks have tiny amounts of water that stays on the bottom and never gets sucked-up by the pump. Of course, the biggest reservoirs of water lies in the bottom of those massive underground tanks at your local gas station. The addition of Ethanol practically sucked-up all that water and pumped it into the customers gas tanks. So, the gas stations got their water removed for free while vehicles were breaking down all over the roadways.......... not from the Ethanol corroding the aluminum but from the water now mixed into your fuel system, because, “Ethanol enables gasoline to mix with water.”
Adding ethanol to gasoline is as environmentally sound as re-introducing non-native species of wolves into states where wolves had been eliminated because they were bad for the human environment. The “new” wolves are even worse. Standard procedure for the libtard mind.
Been saying that, with proof, for years. Can be proven with high school level science... well, high school pre1980 anyway.
It was a dumb idea from the start!
Now that this has come out, I’m willing to bet that the envirowackos demand an increase in the percentage of ethanol mixed with gasoline, not a decrease.
“...I’ve noticed from the very few times I’ve been lucky enough to use ethanol-free gas that I get about 10-15 mpg more per 10-gal tank. The whole thing is crazy.” [Auntie Mame, post 33]
Neither crazy nor a secret: merely physics and automotive engineering.
Gasoline contains more heat energy per pound than ethanol or methanol. A specific motor vehicle must expend a specific amount of energy to move a specific distance: this means a specific quantity of fuel must be consumed. If the amount of energy in each pound of fuel is reduced, the vehicle has to consume more fuel to move the same distance. Fuel mileage has to decrease as a result.
“...’Ethanol enables gasoline to mix with water.’ “ [HandyDandy, post 63]
Ethanol does not allow water to “mix” with gasoline, not in the sense of dissolving or entering solution. It emulsifies water - acts like detergent or soap, breaking water down into very small droplets. In an engine fueled by gasoline, the droplets are so small they no longer sink to the bottom of the tank, so the fuel feed system sucks them up, pumping all of it to the engine to be mixed with air and burned.
Most early ethanol problems with car engines occurred because of that detergent effect: either the fuel retailer did not monitor contaminant levels in their supply tanks, resulting in more water and other crud getting sucked up into the dispenser pumps and put in customer vehicles; or the ethanol/gasoline mix cleaned the water and other crud clinging to the walls of the car owner’s fuel tank and feed lines, which then got trapped in the fuel filter, clogging it. Fuel starvation.
Forum members should use information on the fuel-testers.com site with caution. It contains a number of technical errors. For example: all alcohols do not cause engine problems. Gasline antifreeze contains methanol, which emulsifies water into gasoline much more thoroughly than does ethanol (which has a higher molecular weight), so all of it passes through fuel filters more easily.
Ethanol is not permitted in aviation gasoline because its vapor pressure is higher than gasoline; its flash point is lower; freezing temperature and pour point are different too. Aircraft engines are subjected to a much wider range of operating environments in terms of air pressure and temperature. The risks of vapor lock and pour-point elevation are much greater than for ground vehicles.
Ethyl tert-butyl ether (ETBE) is better than ethanol.
Fortunately, we can find real gas easily here. BTW, if you want to find real gas while traveling, check out puregas.org. They have lists of where to find real gas in every state. It’s not 100% accurate but still helpful.
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