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Chase ATMs go cardless
Fox Business ^ | 8/02/18 | Jade Scipioni

Posted on 08/03/2018 2:34:35 AM PDT by Libloather

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To: exDemMom
I think that you only need to send a radio signal, and the card chip will respond. I recall reading somewhere that there are devices that can activate the chip from 10 feet away.

That's like saying someone can hack into your PC while it's turned off (and batteries removed if it has any batteries). The chip is dead as a doorknob without voltage applied from Vcc and ground. It has no battery. It doesn't even have a capacitor to hold a little power after it is pulled from the reader. Next problem is reading a chip from a distance that is outputting signal on the connectors and nothing via RF.

Furthermore a bad guy can snatch your card but can't do anything with it but use it for a transaction with a merchant. He cannot "pull" the private key or secret key and give the card back to you compromised. It can't be compromised even if you loan it to a bad guy. He can use it for normal transactions until you get it back or have it put on a stolen card list.

(1) It is dead, (2) it doesn't transmit anything even when powered, and (3) it doesn't give up secrets, it only uses them to perform the transaction that it is presented.

Evenrything I have said applies to a chip on a credit card or in a SIM card (same kind of chip). Nothing that I have said applies to an RFID chip which is designed to be powered and respond over RF. Also does not apply to a NFC device which might have its own battery and communicates over RF. The chip on a credit card should not be confused with either of those or other devices.

61 posted on 08/03/2018 6:38:42 PM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: exDemMom
Like my badge at work? All I do is wave it near the scanner and it opens a door.

Your badge at work is a variant of RFID. It has a coil to pick up power from the scanner (the credit chip has no coil, it must be powered by electrical contact). Your badge communicates via RF. The credit card chip does not.

62 posted on 08/03/2018 6:40:55 PM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: mac_truck

My first CD paid 11.5%. Extra credit if you can answer who was President at that time...

My first “bank account” was at a credit union—account # was six digits. Years later, when I came home on leave, I presented my card to a cashier and she called a manager to ask if it was legitimate.


63 posted on 08/03/2018 7:01:38 PM PDT by antidisestablishment ( Xenophobia is the only sane response to multiculturalismÂ’s irrational cultural exuberance)
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To: antidisestablishment

Nixon?


64 posted on 08/03/2018 7:09:14 PM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: mac_truck

Nixon was President when I opened my first account, but the CD was years later during a period of stagflation.


65 posted on 08/03/2018 7:16:18 PM PDT by antidisestablishment ( Xenophobia is the only sane response to multiculturalismÂ’s irrational cultural exuberance)
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Gotta be Carter then...[crosses fingers].


66 posted on 08/03/2018 7:54:40 PM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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