Poland reacts to Trump-Putin meeting

Reuters ^ | Jul 2018 | Marcin Goclowski

[dfwgator]

You do know originally Hitler sought Poland out as a potential ally, knowing their hatred of the Russians, Hitler made it clear to Piłsudski, that there would something in it for Poland, in the way of gaining Russian territory if Poland would ally with Germany, Piłsudski, wisely refused, and Poland chose to ally with Britain and France. This upset Hitler so much, that Poland became his sworn enemy after that, and he vowed to destroy the entire Polish race.

[dfwgator]

I visited the History of Polish Jews in Warsaw, I highly recommend it to anyone going there. It’s not a holocaust museum, it celebrates Jewish life in Poland for centuries.

One of the most unfortunate things about the Soviet occupation of Poland is that this aspect of Polish history simply wasn’t discussed for the 40+ years after the war, and there was plenty of anti-Semitism in the ranks of the Polish Communists, expelling many Jews in 1968 under the guise of “Anti-Zionism” after the 1967 war.

[arrogantsob]

And your point is? That is a worthless table for a number of reasons starting with what period it allegedly covers.

[arrogantsob]

There is a reason that that example is important because it shows how anti-semitism can become tragic. It also was a very rare event.

But even that was not throwing the Jews in camps killing them. Nor were we the only country excluding them, even Cuba said “no.”

[Lukasz]

Of course this is kind of a manipulation. As much as your reliable, apparently “God given” sources.

[arrogantsob]

Not “God-given at all - except where there are errors. I really don’t know what you are saying “there wasn’t anti-semitism in Poland”. Maybe you don’t believe there was a holocaust either.

[robowombat]

The brunette on the right appears to be at least part Oriental.

[Grzegorz 246]

Oy vey !

[Lukasz]

Do you think that this supposed polish antisemitism is somehow connected with holocaust? Perhaps you are one of those comedians whom demand Poland pay war reparations?

[arrogantsob]

Perhaps you are an idiot

[Lukasz]

Hear it from someone who called himself arrogantsob, this is a compliment...

[arrogantsob]

You are welcome.

And it is now clear that Poland is the greatest nation in the history of the world with no warts or blemishes.

[arrogantsob]

You are welcome.

And it is now clear that Poland is the greatest nation in the history of the world with no warts or blemishes.

[Lukasz]

Nope. We are on the second place and far behind the Jews and this is probably the reason why we are so ‘antisemitic’. Pure envy!

[arrogantsob]

No one has claimed Poland TODAY is anymore Anti-semetic than others.

[Lukasz]

Fine. Does your knowledge of Polish history allow you to say something about the level of anti-Polish sentiment among the Jews at that time? It arose or decreased today? Perhaps it is shocking perspective for you, however if you want to stay objective...

[arrogantsob]

Poland was once called “Paradise for Jews” so many had moved there from areas which persecuted them. There was no reason for them to be anti-Polish, they were sometimes their only friends.

Jewish history in Poland was up and down. There were periods within which the ruler protected them. There were other periods which were not so benevolent.

Then there is the problem of defining the Polish territories which fluctuated a great deal over the centuries. This also means defining just who the Poles are because the populations related to the ambiguous nature of the borders.

Poland was the least anti-Semitic country in Europe until the Russians took it over.

[Lukasz]

Poland was the least anti-Semitic country in Europe until the Russians took it over.

Russians, Prussians and Austrians to be precise. Simply Polish population realized that the Jews get along with the occupants quite well. Culmination of their lack of loyalty to Polish state came with Joseph Stalin during and after the WWII. Soviets installed the Jews on the top posts because they knew there was no sentiment to Polish nation on their side.

Of course the Jewish side never apologized the Poles for anything their countrymen done. While they always demand Poles apologize for every single wrongdoing. Thus the Poles hate to hear about our antisemitism over an over while the issue of Jewish crimes against us is completely ignored.

Beside of that, multiculturalism doesn't work, when a minority becomes too large they don't assimilate. Vast majority of Jewish population in Poland did not learn our language despite living here few centuries. I know very well that Americans aren't happy about growing Hispanic population stuck in Spanish only speaking areas.

Unlike American liberal Jews those in Israel don't practice multicultural policy when they gained their own state.

[arrogantsob]

Don’t confuse the statements of individuals with the ideas of a whole people.

Hopefully, and seems to be happening, Poland is not going to become a multicultural nation.

There would be no Israel if the goal was multiculturalism.

[1Old Pro]

Poland is becoming a European leader, deservedly.