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Urgent help needed as Afrin IDP numbers top 167,000 (Syria)
Syrian Observatory for Human Rights ^ | (3-23-18) 23/03/2018 | none stated

Posted on 03/25/2018 3:07:23 PM PDT by Texas Fossil

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To: mac_truck

*** The US airlifting pallets of weapons to the Kurds is exactly what got this military incursion by Turkey started. ***

Winner, Winner, Chicken Dinner. The SAA offered the Kurds a deal. The Kurds said no. They chose their fate.

The US needs to get out of Syria. I think the Omnibus Bill includes throwing more money, and illegal actions toward the legitimate government of Syria. Very distressing.


21 posted on 03/25/2018 9:08:55 PM PDT by sockmonkey
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To: Lurker

Hate to bring you up on current events, but the Kurds have been some of our best allies in the region. And IMO they piss off the right persons, another plus.


22 posted on 03/26/2018 5:36:22 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy

“but the Kurds have been some of our best allies in the region.“

When exactly did Congress declare War on Syria?

I must have missed it.

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23 posted on 03/26/2018 6:03:24 AM PDT by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: Lurker

We haven’t attacked Syria. If we had they and more Russians would be dead.


24 posted on 03/26/2018 6:12:24 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Reagan conservative: All 3 Pillars)
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To: rbmillerjr

“We haven’t attacked Syria.”

I’d say bombing their airfields and putting US troops on their soil without their consent qualifies.

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25 posted on 03/26/2018 6:25:44 AM PDT by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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Hardly.

It is in in the American national interest to go after terrorists like ISIS no matter where they go - and we will.

The bombing of the airfield was after the Russians and Syrians tested Trump by using chemical weapons again. They lost and Trump was up for the test.

It is about American security interests.


26 posted on 03/26/2018 6:34:02 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Reagan conservative: All 3 Pillars)
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To: Lurker

Providing arms to an ally does not require a declaration of war. We provided support to Britain well before our entry into WWII. Our direct military involvement in Syria is another issue entirely.


27 posted on 03/26/2018 7:03:30 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy

“Providing arms to an ally does not require a declaration of war.“

Putting armed troops on the ground without their consent does. Or at least it used to, anyway.

Nice try.

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28 posted on 03/26/2018 7:42:02 AM PDT by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: Lurker

I already addressed that. Nice counter-try.


29 posted on 03/26/2018 7:59:08 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Lurker

Incorrect.


30 posted on 03/26/2018 8:20:49 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Reagan conservative: All 3 Pillars)
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To: dirtboy

“We provided support to Britain well before our entry into WWII.”

Under the Congressional authorization of the Lend Lease Act. Has such an act been passed with regard to the Kurds?

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31 posted on 03/26/2018 8:37:42 AM PDT by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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“The bombing of the airfield was after the Russians and Syrians tested Trump by using chemical weapons again.“

Which Act of Congress specifically authorized that?

“It is about American security interests.”

Then there will be no problem getting Congress to sign off on it as the Constitution requires. You do remember the Constitution, right?

L


32 posted on 03/26/2018 8:40:10 AM PDT by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: dirtboy

“I already addressed that.”

You did, quite incorrectly, but you did indeed address it.

Better luck next time.

L


33 posted on 03/26/2018 8:44:38 AM PDT by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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The Constitution gives the President authority to run foreign policy.

We don’t have 535 Secretaries of State or CICs.

There is no provision in the Constitution requiring a congressional sign off for the President to fulfill his constitutional duties.


34 posted on 03/26/2018 8:51:37 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Reagan conservative: All 3 Pillars)
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“The Constitution gives the President authority to run foreign policy.”

Except for this itty bitty little piece from that very same Constitution:

“Congress shall have the Power to Declare War.”

Somehow I doubt you’ve ever actually read it.

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35 posted on 03/26/2018 8:55:07 AM PDT by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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Perhaps you should read all of the Articles:

“Article II Section 2 of the U.S. Constitution, the Commander in Chief clause, states that “[t]he President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States.”

The Declaration of War is meant for comprehensive total war scenarios.

It is not enough to read the Constitution, one must comprehend it. Your perspective is not much better than the gun control nuts misinterpreting the “well organized militia” clause.


36 posted on 03/26/2018 9:07:50 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Reagan conservative: All 3 Pillars)
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To: Lurker

I did not address it incorrectly. I said it was another issue entirely from sending aid to the Kurds.


37 posted on 03/26/2018 9:10:27 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: sockmonkey
I think the Omnibus Bill includes throwing more money, and illegal actions toward the legitimate government of Syria.

Which is why you won't hear any of the resident neo-liberals complaining about the Omnibus...their pet war projects are getting funded.

38 posted on 03/26/2018 9:18:13 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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So why did the Fathers bother specifying that whole Declaration of War thingy? Is it your position that the President can order the military to do whatever he wants to whatever country he wants for as long as he wants?

And where in the Constitution do the words “total war scenario” appear?

Your comprehension of the Constitution seems to have a bunch of emanations from multiple penumbras.

L


39 posted on 03/26/2018 9:32:42 AM PDT by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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Go read the debates regarding “ the Declaration of War”.

The Founders made a distinction between making war and declaring war. Declaring war is not as strong as making war. The Commander in Chief of the army and navy has full power to use the military for making war. Congress is limited to appropriations of money and making “rules and regulation”, of such.

You don’t understand the Constitution. Congress has some limited checks, constitutionally. Thus we have The War Powers Act, etc. However, the congress has also strengthened the Executive Branch with legislation.

The Executive is supreme in using the military to defend the US and protect its interests.

Drill a little deeper.


40 posted on 03/26/2018 9:50:03 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Reagan conservative: All 3 Pillars)
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