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Maine Voices: It’s time for a gun abolition movement
Press Herald ^ | February 25, 2018 | Greg Bates

Posted on 03/23/2018 8:59:49 PM PDT by GuavaCheesePuff

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To: GuavaCheesePuff

No...it’s time for prison sentences to mean something. Ten years instead of ten months. And it’s time to re-open the state mental health hospitals.


41 posted on 03/24/2018 12:50:11 AM PDT by ryderann
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

Examine all the ‘surveys’ carefully - they ALL say the same thing: “Guns for me, but not for thee.”


42 posted on 03/24/2018 1:06:11 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: allblues

The ignorant useful zero-info tools for the Left have never examined the homicide rates in nations around the world. They have not seen the latest U.S. statistics. The following graph show homicide rate vs gun ownership for various nations of the world and the homicide trends in the U.S.

Our homicide rate is going down:


43 posted on 03/24/2018 1:22:28 AM PDT by jonrick46 (Trump continues to have all the right enemies.)
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To: Reno89519

adopt national reciprocity.

There is a fools errand if I ever saw one. Since when do “We the People” beg our overseers for God given rights? The second amendment is all the national reciprocity anyone should need. Unfortunately because States are Sovereign, they have laws to the contrary. They have to pass Constitutional Carry Legislation. Unfortunately it is not nation wide, but I don’t want the Federal Government in the permit business for darn sure, when you are guaranteed to run up against state law attempting to carry in a State that does not allow you the right.

As an example look at the number of States willing to go against Federal laws on Marijuana, and the legal situations they find themselves in. I would much rather deal with the situation we are in now than deal with the Fed on the issue. Federally we are on solid ground with the Second Amendment. It is the individual States that are the problem, and that needs to be solved at the State level, not by more Federal mandates on the States.

What Government giveth, government can just as easily take away. Constitutional Carry, means it is based purely on the Second Amendment, and no paperwork is required. If States are not in agreement, the people need to demand they change, not a Federal Mandate.


44 posted on 03/24/2018 1:26:47 AM PDT by wita (Always and forever, under oath in defense of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.)
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To: shanover

Well, at least we old farts are still game. We were fortunate enough to have lived in America when she was still free; and we are stubborn enough to not let the bad guys defeat us. As a pundit once said: One doesn’t lose by getting defeated in battle; one loses by surrendering.


45 posted on 03/24/2018 1:55:35 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: windsorknot

“Start with the blue states.”

No, let’s not. Best not to start at all.


46 posted on 03/24/2018 1:57:53 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

Beta Male Greg can come and get ‘em! :-D

MOLON LABE!


47 posted on 03/24/2018 2:14:17 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The US Constitution ....... Invented by geniuses and God .... Administered by morons ......)
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To: RedMonqey

Right. Banning free speech, the ultimate goal, is step 2. They have to take away the guns first in step 1 so that it’s safe for them to move to step 2.


48 posted on 03/24/2018 2:30:47 AM PDT by KyCats
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

The anti-gun statistics us various methods to distort their figures. For instance, they will use guns per capita instead gun ownership per capita to compare the U.S. to other nations. Americans may have several guns in their possession, but they can only use one gun at a time to commit murder.

The use of guns for suicide is used in the deaths by guns statistics. This gives a distorted relationship between gun ownership and gun deaths. It overlooks that the suicidal person, without a gun, will commit suicide another way. In countries that have low gun ownership, suicides may be higher than those with high gun ownership. For instance, Japan (rank #26 for suicides), which has low gun ownership, the most common method among both genders was hanging, followed by jumping from a high place. In the United States (rank #32), it was firearms among both genders, followed by hanging among males and drugs among females.

And this brings to mind the gun deaths that are related to the illegal drug industry. This industry has created a nation of thug murderers. Murders are done to keep other pushers from competing for the user market. Murders are done for street justice. Murders are done for revenge. Murders are done as an initiation requirement for gang membership. Murders are done in robberies to get money to pay for drugs. And the illegal drug industry has killed 64,000 people from drug overdoses. This exceeds the 17,000 homicides America sees each year. The most dramatically way to reduce the deaths in on our nation is to solve the illegal drug plague killing Americans.


49 posted on 03/24/2018 2:31:02 AM PDT by jonrick46 (Trump continues to have all the right enemies.)
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

>> To end gun deaths, we need to ban all civilian guns.

I’ll give you 10:1 that this guy supports the #BLM movement.

Think on that for a minute.


50 posted on 03/24/2018 3:13:29 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

How’d that ban on pot work out?.... Try banning guns from gun owners and it will be a thousand times worse . Gun owners will resist , big time , way way more than druggies resisted getting busted for pot . Is the U.S. willing to incarcerate millions of people who will not comply ? How about willing to kill 100’s of 1000’s who will resist forcefully? All to suit some mind controlled demands of some ‘kids’ who have never had to protect themselves or them loved ones from anyone other than their fellow deranged kids , whom likely became deranged by the mocking and bullying of their own teen aged peers . If any politicians think that America’s gun owners and collectors will just give up their weapons because some new pissant laws get passed demanding them to , they better think again .


51 posted on 03/24/2018 3:29:09 AM PDT by LeoWindhorse (America First !)
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52 posted on 03/24/2018 3:32:44 AM PDT by Iron Munro (If Illegals voted Republican 66 Million Democrats Would Be Screaming "Build The Wall!")
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

I prefer an abolition of marxists with extreme prejudice.


53 posted on 03/24/2018 4:03:37 AM PDT by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. Robert Heinlein)
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To: laplata
Eventually gun owners are going to get sick and tired of more laws. Then what happens?

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They’ll ignore them.

Happening already in states like NY California etc.

54 posted on 03/24/2018 4:22:48 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you)
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To: BenLurkin

... and home invasions, and attacks by wild animals.


55 posted on 03/24/2018 5:11:39 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine ("Married with children.")
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

Hitler banning civilian gun ownership in occupied Poland and Ukraine certainly “ended gun deaths,” didn’t it, Greg?


56 posted on 03/24/2018 5:13:15 AM PDT by Campion (Halten Sie sich unbedingt an die Lehre!)
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

First, the author must demonstrate that;
1) Banning alcohol worked during Prohibition;
2) Banning “illegal” drugs works so well.
3) Ban on illegal immigration works so well. Excepting, of course, the 12 to 15 million illegal aliens, untold millions of anchor babies etc.
Oops.


57 posted on 03/24/2018 5:21:42 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

Maine doesn’t even require a permit to carry a concealed weapon yet it has the lowest violent crime rate in the nation.


58 posted on 03/24/2018 5:26:40 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Billthedrill

Gun abolition is impossible. Just like improvised explosive devices cannot be abolished, neither can projectile weapons. They would be just more poorly manufactured, but manufactured none the less. Any component for a pistol or rifle, could be created using a 3-D printer, though it may be of inferior durability.

The idea is not to produce a polished and highly engineered device, but one useful for short-term use. Back during the Second World War, a very cheaply made single-shot pistol, capable of firing a .45 ACP round, was distributed to the partisans inside France, for assassination purposes, easily concealed and an example of a short-range weapon that was both deadly, and easily disposed of later. It was essentially a handgrip, trigger mechanism, a sliding breach, and a short unrifled barrel.

http://americanshootingjournal.com/lost-pistol-world-war-ii/


59 posted on 03/24/2018 5:31:57 AM PDT by alloysteel (There are old pilots, and there are bold pilots. There are no old, bold pilots.)
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To: GuavaCheesePuff
"To end gun deaths, we need to ban all civilian guns."

Give that a try. Let me know how it works out for ya'. If you're able, that is.
60 posted on 03/24/2018 5:50:10 AM PDT by LIConFem (I will no longer accept the things I cannot change. it's time to change the things I cannot accept.)
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