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1 posted on 03/23/2018 4:47:46 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

He outsmarted them all the way to raping the treasury for $1.3T. I bet they are really pi$$ed at being so outsmarted!


40 posted on 03/23/2018 5:50:26 PM PDT by Midwesterner53
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There’s an article out there that says this thing has “gun control” measures in it too.


41 posted on 03/23/2018 5:50:49 PM PDT by BeadCounter
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When Congress does not or cannot produce separate bills in a timely fashion, it will roll many of the separate appropriations bills into one omnibus spending bill. The deadline could be the start of the next fiscal year, October 1, or it could be some other deadline when appropriations would otherwise run out (such as a deadline set by a continuing resolution). The fiscal year of the United States is the 12-month period beginning on October 1 and ending on September 30 of the next calendar year.[2] Some of the reasons that Congress might not complete all the separate bills include partisan disagreement, disagreement amongst members of the same political party, and too much work on other bills. According to Walter J. Oleszek, a political science professor and "senior specialist in American national government at the Congressional Research Service", omnibus bills have become more popular since the 1980s because "party and committee leaders can package or bury controversial provisions in one massive bill to be voted up or down." Omnibus bills can also be used to "veto-proof" items, by including measures that the president is expected to veto if they were submitted for signature on their own, but who is willing or pressured into signing an omnibus bill that includes those measures. Criticism In Congressional Procedures and the Policy Process Oleszek described omnibus measures, "Packaging all or a number of appropriation bills together creates what are called omnibus or minibus measures. These bills appropriate money to operate the federal government and make national policy in scores of areas. These omnibus bills grant large powers to a small number of people who put these packages together - party and committee leaders and top executive officials. Omnibus measures usually arouse the irk of the rank-and-file members of Congress because typically little time is available in the final days of a session to debate these massive measures or to know what is in them. Absent enactment of annual appropriation bills or a CR, federal agencies must shut down, furloughing their employees. Moreover, "uncertainty about final appropriations leads many [federal] managers to hoard funds; in some cases, hiring and purchasing stops." — Walter J. Oleszek. Congressional Procedures and the Policy Process. Often, omnibus spending bills are criticized for being full of pork (unnecessary/wasteful spending that pleases constituents or special interest groups). The bills regularly stretch to more than 1,000 pages. Nevertheless, such bills have grown more common in recent years. In December 2004, the 3,016-page $388 billion Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2005 became known for its size, its earmarks inserted in the final stages that represented 4% of the $388, its unrelated provisions, and controversial content and for being rushed through at the last minute; it was drafted by the House in less than 24 hours then pushed through the Senate. It contained "complex and controversial matters" which included nine bills, only two of which had been debated in the Senate and a conference report with 32 unrelated provisions that the Senate had never considered. In 2009, a $410 billion omnibus bill, the Omnibus Appropriations Act, 2009, became a point of controversy due to its $8 billion in earmarks. On March 11, the bill was signed by U.S. President Barack Obama into law. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnibus_spending_bill
45 posted on 03/23/2018 6:09:30 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnibus_spending_bill


47 posted on 03/23/2018 6:10:39 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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I was also disappointed at first but calmed down after learning there is a difference between a signing a budget vs signing an omnibus bill. Just like Obama, Trump can use the money or not but we know he will fund the Military first and foremost so the plan can move forward. I also understand, part of this bill will go to the wall and fund the IG including money for witness protection program. Time to read the bill.


49 posted on 03/23/2018 6:18:45 PM PDT by LaDivaLoca (There can be no triumph w/o loss, no victory w/o suffering, no freedom w/o sacrifice. THANK U TROOPS)
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https://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/18/fears-grow-trump-will-ignore-congress-spending-241768

Trump can ignore spending money that’s not budgeted.


50 posted on 03/23/2018 6:28:37 PM PDT by struggle
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For all talking about the wall, this article is out there too:

AP News Guide: Trump gets wishes on border wall - sort of

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/energy-environment/ap-news-guide-trump-gets-wishes-on-border-wall-—sort-of/2018/03/23/0b2860de-2ede-11e8-8dc9-3b51e028b845_story.html?utm_term=.5588c52d1bac


52 posted on 03/23/2018 6:32:02 PM PDT by BeadCounter
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So how the shutdown threat?


54 posted on 03/23/2018 6:52:26 PM PDT by fruser1
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Boy I hope this is correct. Then President Trump should win a prize for his acting ability at the signing.


55 posted on 03/23/2018 7:20:02 PM PDT by Revolutionary ("Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition!")
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I think the money must be appropriated within the 6 month period and used as directed or guess who can sue?


60 posted on 03/23/2018 9:24:48 PM PDT by Lopeover ( The 2016 Election is about allegiance to the United States!)
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Bump


61 posted on 03/23/2018 9:40:33 PM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding")
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Rush_02_12_2018
62 posted on 03/23/2018 10:00:19 PM PDT by CaliforniaCraftBeer
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This seems to be duh troof


63 posted on 03/24/2018 4:30:33 AM PDT by stockpirate (TYRANNY IS THY NAME REBELLION IS OUR ANSWER. HANG THEM ALL!)
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I pray to the Lord that you are correct on this.


64 posted on 03/24/2018 4:49:50 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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This is utter nonsense. Monies appropriated by law can only be spent on that for which they are appropriated, and if they are not spent they are returned to the Treasury. Any other wishful thinking is based on a fundamentally ill-informed view on the process.


66 posted on 03/24/2018 6:04:47 AM PDT by crusher (GREEN: Globaloney for the Gullible)
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CHECK OUT:
http://docs.house.gov/billsthisweek/20180319/BILLS-115SAHR1625-RCP115-66.pdf


67 posted on 03/24/2018 7:37:30 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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CHECK OUT:
http://docs.house.gov/billsthisweek/20180319/BILLS-115SAHR1625-RCP115-66.pdf


68 posted on 03/24/2018 7:37:57 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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