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California Wants to Secede? Let's Help Them!
Townhall.com ^ | March 22, 2018 | Wayne Allyn Root

Posted on 03/22/2018 9:00:10 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: hoosiermama; vette6387; unkus; SkyPilot; Forty-Niner; sheik yerbouty

California north of San Francisco is red! Not all of CA is wacked; not even all of LA.


41 posted on 03/22/2018 9:50:25 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: jeffersondem

*ALL* of us genuine conservatives here need help. In great part thanks to REPUBLICAN President Bush opening the borders for invasion and demographic ‘reconquista’.


42 posted on 03/22/2018 9:54:10 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegals, abolish the DEA, IRS and ATF.)
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To: clamper1797

What the heck are you doing on a board for conservatives or Americans?


43 posted on 03/22/2018 9:56:47 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegals, abolish the DEA, IRS and ATF.)
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To: Kaslin
This is just stupid, California doesn't want to secede, some morons in California want to secede, just like some morons in Texas, South Carolina, The Cascadia Movement of Washington and Oregon, Hawaii, North and South Dakota, New Hampshire and Vermont want to secede.

But for some reason all anyone can remember is California, as if it has the only people in office that want to protect illegals.

44 posted on 03/22/2018 9:59:01 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: RedStateRocker

Same thing as you ... we don’t want liberals or faux conservatives in Arizona


45 posted on 03/22/2018 10:01:57 AM PDT by clamper1797 (We are getting close to the last "box")
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To: Kaslin

The CA (medical shorthand for cancer) has already metastasized, unfortunately. You’d have to also cut out Nevada and parts of TX, AZ and NM as well. Not practical. Just enforce the damn law and let CA be the isolated rogue state it is. We can win without them.


46 posted on 03/22/2018 10:03:08 AM PDT by scottinoc
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To: A_Former_Democrat
Kick their asses out. If Cali secedes it would be even more Fup And just like today, the problems will spill over into us. GTTHO. Leave bastards

It's interesting that California is the BIGGEST contributor in every Freep-a-thon!

47 posted on 03/22/2018 10:08:11 AM PDT by notaliberal (St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle,)
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To: clamper1797

True America loving conservatives are more than welcome in Arizona ...


48 posted on 03/22/2018 10:10:47 AM PDT by clamper1797 (We are getting close to the last "box")
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To: dsrtsage

West Virginia became a separate state, as a result of Virginia declaring secession for the US.

In 1859 California passed the Pico Act, requesting that Southern California be split off as a separate state. The governor signed the bill, and 75 percent of voters in Southern California voted for it as a referendum. Congress needed to approve the split. Because of the secession of Southern States, Congress did not vote on it.

Bring back California’s Pico Act, and declare that since Congress failed to vote on California’s wishes in 1859, Congress will now take up the Pico Act.

In the process, declare that since California has voted to ignore Federal Immigration Laws, and declared that anyone cooperating in the implementation of Federal Immigration laws will be arrested, the Legislature of the state of California is now in rebellion.

Amend the original Pico Act and use the amended version to split California up into multiple states, to include the State of Jefferson in Northern California.

Obama had no problem declaring that Arizona could not, on its own, enforce Federal Immigration law, and Arizona was ruled in violation of the Supremacy Clause.

So isn’t it true that California is in violation, since it refuses to enforce Federal Law, or cooperate with ICE in fulfilling their obligations under law?

Is not the state of California Legislature in rebellion?


49 posted on 03/22/2018 10:11:05 AM PDT by Yulee
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To: clamper1797

Don’t want ‘em here in CA, either. Send in the National Guard, locked and loaded :-)


50 posted on 03/22/2018 10:11:43 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegals, abolish the DEA, IRS and ATF.)
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To: McGavin999

Actually if California was prohibited from counting illegals in the US census, their representation in the House of Representative would plummet.


51 posted on 03/22/2018 10:12:14 AM PDT by Yulee
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To: RedStateRocker

Works for me ...


52 posted on 03/22/2018 10:12:27 AM PDT by clamper1797 (We are getting close to the last "box")
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To: RedStateRocker

Hell ... I’s volunteer to help the National Guard with that


53 posted on 03/22/2018 10:13:55 AM PDT by clamper1797 (We are getting close to the last "box")
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To: Kaslin; All
"Good idea, bad idea?"

The problem with California is arguably not California per se.

Consider that all roads of corruption in the federal and state governments lead to Congress imo.

More specifically, the Founding States were concerned about renegade states that could rise and possibly destabilize the whole Union, and gave the feds specific enumerated powers to deal with such states.

The problem with the referenced constitutional safeguards this. We're still stuck with a corrupt, post-17th Amendment ratification Congress left over from the lawless Obama Administration, Congress having a track record for basically shrugging its shoulders with respect to renegade states like California and Illinois.

The remedy …

Patriots in all states can exercise their voting power to deal with California by giving Pres. Trump a new Congress that will not only support Trump's vision for MAGA, but actually do its job to keep the peace by making punitive laws to deal with radical state leaders.

Also, repealing the 17th Amendment would effectively secede all the states from the corrupt federal government imo. (Are you listening Gov. Brown?)

The 16th Amendment can disappear too.

Insights welcome.

54 posted on 03/22/2018 10:34:33 AM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Kaslin

Well give them Las Vegas and take all of Lake Tahoe and San Diego.


55 posted on 03/22/2018 10:41:07 AM PDT by dixie1202
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To: Mark17

Where are you headed Mark? Back to PI?


56 posted on 03/22/2018 10:49:02 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Make American Intelligence Great Again.)
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To: Navy Patriot

Then divide what’s left into two states, Jefferson and Pacifica, both would be Red States.
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Let’s do that.


57 posted on 03/22/2018 10:55:31 AM PDT by Bodega (we are developing less and less common sense...world wide)
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To: Kaslin

I’d go for that, I’d vote to have them leave. But they must promise to keep everything Hollywood there, including their actors. Maybe some Californians would like it if they could secede from Taxafornia. I’d even throw in Arnold to keep him in Taxafornia.


58 posted on 03/22/2018 11:04:15 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (Damn Tag line, fouled up again, thanks cursor.)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

California north of San Francisco is red! ..... Which red are you talking about? Marin County?


59 posted on 03/22/2018 11:09:37 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (Damn Tag line, fouled up again, thanks cursor.)
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To: clamper1797

Well, your reference to “refugees” kinda pissed me off; if situations were reversed I’d welcome every Constitution revering American and their arsenal (amazing how I recovered my stuff after that boating accident before I left, eh?). Going to fight the fight here, because not all of my family can leave, it’s not like picking up a kid or three and moving to unoccupied America.

It *WAS* a Republican president that let the camel get it’s nose under the tent, once we had this horde voting of course they voted in moonbeam and the agents of the Reconquista.


60 posted on 03/22/2018 11:13:35 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegals, abolish the DEA, IRS and ATF.)
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