Posted on 03/05/2018 8:28:40 AM PST by fishtank
There are the two cases of individuals (Chinese guy and a Turkish gal) who have 22 sets of chromosomes. The Chinese guy story has been around for eight years...I think the Turk lady story about four years. Neither of the two will have produce a descent with the 22 sets unless they were introduced and produced off-spring. But you have to ask....how did their parents produce the 22 set kid?
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You just invented your own God.
The God of the bible doesn't recognize him/her.
Even the concept of "nothing" in this regard is meaningless . What is "nothing?". It can't be defined because as soon as you define it, it becomes something. The whole idea of "nothing" is an abstract concept which we really can't conceive of and has no objective temporal meaning.
Because by definition evolution is a purely random process of beneficial genetic mutation. (something that has never been witnessed by the way). As soon as you add God to the mix it's not evolution anymore.
http://www.icr.org/how-we-do-research
“ICR holds that the biblical record of primeval history in Genesis 1–11 is factual, historical, and clearly understandable and, therefore, that all things were created and made in six literal days.”
Down’s Syndrome is an example of chromosomal error.
Down’s Syndrome is one of the few shifts where the developing offspring survives even to birth.
Most large-scale genetic ‘mutations’ result in death of the fetus.
In the original languages there are minimal versions. The vast majority of the copies we have of the Hebrew and Greek manuscripts are very much in agreement.
Interesting. How were they even targeted and checked for their chromosomes?
Point being, something must have made them stand out from the general population.
The way the Hebrew is constructed and used within the context of the OT it does mean a 24 hour day as we understand it.
Give it a break, WILL YOU?
YOU MAKE CHRISTIANS LOOK STUPID with these ridiculous arguments about a subject which has NO REAL BEARING on the validity of the Bible, OR its message OR the existence of God. You are a mirror ideological image of atheist biologists who believe evolution proves God and Divine Creation does not exist.
The Bible is a RELIGIOUS text, NOT a scientific Tome.
It uses symbolic language to explain reality to a tribe of stone age shepherds.
It’s purpose is to explain God, His power,
the need for salavation, Christ’s sacrifice, and guidelines for a moral life, NOT COSMOLOGICAL, BIOLOGICAL OR CHEMICAL THEORY.
The Sun and Moon were not made on the first day so where did the 24 hour day come from?
Theistic evolution must take substantial liberties in interpreting the Bible, and they face must of the same arguments Christians use against atheistic evolution. Jesus says "but at the beginning of creation God make them male and female." Mark 10:6
From what I’ve read, the Chinese was married but having trouble reproducing. They went to a DNA test and this odd circumstance popped up. The Turkish lady rarely goes into detail but I might assume that she was married and had trouble conceiving.
I would suggest this...it’s only in the past twenty years that we commonly do DNA tests. I did my first test last year. I suspect as we branch out and do more of these....we will find hundreds of folks like this with the different number of chromosomes, and it’s only by luck that this group hasn’t figured this out, or met their partner with the same chromosome count.
I have questions over this....like in the case of the Chinese guy....did both his parents have the lesser number or the normal number. If they have the normal number...how did this guy just accidentally flip to the lesser number? So far, no one answers this type of question.
And that's what I'm referring to. "We" understand a day to be 24 hours. Well, there is more to the universe than our planet's "day" time period.
The first astronauts to land on mars will experience that, albeit, a small difference.
FYI, developmental biology says “no” we won’t find many. DNA is like software, an initial program load and the operating system for EVERYTHING that keeps us alive. When one’s genome is incomplete, so is your development and your metabolism.
Interesting nonetheless.
As far as I am concerned evolution could be part of God’s plan. In fact, that might be the only plausible way forward. You might want to read Nature’s Destiny or Signature in the Cell.
I think the odds are stacked against abiogenesis and also stacked against evolution. Others have found the odds to be stacked against a universe that can contain sentient life - the anthropic principle.
I can accept an all powerful God that makes each species one at a time. I can also accept an all intelligent God who calibrates the Big Bang just so, including the laws of physics, so that everything plays out to include the formation of this solar system, this unlikely water planet, the origin of life, plants, animals and man.
I learned evolution in school and accepted it. Then I read some critics of evolution and, right or wrong, they presented reasonable arguments. I read Darwin and was not impressed. Modern day critics of evolution stick to the subject. It seems that many modern day supporters of evolution are content to diss anyone who disagrees, while advancing evolution as a theory of everything or as an attack on theism. They are losing the debate through non-participation.
From a naturalistic perspective, I think past dogma about evolution was unwarranted. We really don’t know much, despite the fact that some people are sure that they do.
I no longer reject young earth creationism, nor do I accept it. Those who argue from a biblical perspective should accept that those arguments have no weight with many people. That’s O.K. They can either carry their arguments further among like-minded people, or, try to reach a larger audience through scientific reasoning. Both strategies have been pursued.
It does explain how life originated and from where life originated.....something science cannot do.
One author examined the days of creation from the perspective of relativistic time dilation. From the perspective of the Big Bang, the first day would, he argued, correspond to billions of years as seen by you or me on Earth in the present.
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