Posted on 02/22/2018 8:25:56 PM PST by conservative98
Well I’m glad they are now doing what most of us consider to be the right and moral thing. It tore me up watching Columbine unfold, imagining being the parent of a teen stuck in that building with murderous mad men while all those armed police were outside.
>>He believed he did a good job calling in the location, setting up the perimeter and calling in the description (of Cruz),
Now, if he had seen a Poodle that needed stomping or a citizen who failed to OBEY , he would have gone Rambo.
Give him the “participation award” he so desires.
Yes, they never throw one of their own under the bus in that manner. It is VERY strange that he would publicly talk that way, using that kind of inflammatory language.
Yes, they never throw one of their own under the bus in that manner. It is VERY strange that he would publicly talk that way, using that kind of inflammatory language.
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And Peter Wang 15 year old unarmed JROTC Cadet gave his live while saving fellow students. Think about that here’s a 15 year old boy who only train was a couple of years of JROTC and he did better than the cops. Despite what a few think the JROTC Cadets actions were clearly a case of above and beyond in the finest tradition of the American Military.
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Shame Rubio and Loasch (sp?) coulnd’t ask anyone during that ‘Town Hall’ farce: “Thik Peter Wang wishes he had access to a firearm? Here was someone TRAINED in the use of a gun w/o access to one to defend himself and the rest he was attainment to protect. You may have observed and have PTSD after walking out; they had no such luxury.”
Great..... kids are being murdered inside the school and this guy “sets up the perimeter!”
This school was so large and the way he shot the kids might not have allowed for JROTC students to get to where the killings were taking place. This began outside the school and went from there all within 3 minutes he had shot over 100 people.
From the article they say he “took up a position” and that position was seeking cover behind a concrete column leading to a stairwell. I wonder where he was at the time Cruz entered the building, patrolling the grounds in his car?
FWIW, the only statements I will believe about who did what, where, and, when will have to be given under oath.
But what is infuriating the living Hell out of me this morning is that cowardly SOB is getting far better protection than that school ever did.
He’s already done enough time to get full pension. He’s the fall guy.
Or just put his gun in his mouth and pull the trigger.
Agreed. Since Columbine the rule has changed. The Jefferson CO. SWAT sat outside the building for one hour, while Harris and Kleybold continued their slaughter. Since that time, it’s been protocol to respond and engage immediately.
There should have been 18 deaths and at least three suicides.
You also said if the guy was 30 ft away he wouldn't have much of a chance of hitting him with his handgun.
Well I should not say anything; but the more you post the harder you come down on people which seems a little off for you and I;ll try to take a little heat off the others.
To say the officer has no obligation to place himself in a situation where he may get in a gun fight is not really right.
He knowingly chose a job that was very good chance that it could happen and was certainly one of the risks might have to take.
This is like those people who sign up for our volunteer military in the past during peace time to see the world dress up like a real soldier and then screaming their heads when a conflict breaks out and bullets start flying saying this ain't fair didn't sign up for this.
Also you imply that he would be committing suicide to have to go in the building because the guy would have seen him and if he could not get closer than thirty feet he would have little chance of hitting him or doing any good.
Yes the guy with the rifle most of the time has the advantage over the guy with the handgun but not always.
If you think that a .45 auto, 357 .44 or.45 revolver are not capable against a man size target at ranges of fifty to a hundred yards with standard iron sights then you haven't done much shooting or been trained around men who can really shoot.
I mean come on, most clubs and private ranges have the old 100yd gong and some years before these wonderful computer lathes and ugly but light plastic marvels, I have seen guys pull out their little Beretta .25's and Colt 380's auto backup and 2".38's and play Johnnie Come Marching Home in b flat. Lets not forget this officer was a veteran police officer and this was an untrained 19 coward proved by the targets he chose and he didn't expect any one to show up very quickly and with all the running and screaming and him shooting he was focusing on them and this should have able to tell from the shots and yells where he was located and to approached without being surprised.
I guess what really bothered me was I believe was thinking about his retirement and the money.
I mean he tried to say he done what he thought was best and I might have given him benefit of the doubt I usually do to most people, especially our policemen my Dad was one for a number of years and my brother and nephew were firemen and retired from them.
But this guy had no intention to stand by his statement but resigned as quickly as he could after his statement.
He ran before any thing could be looked into to see if he acted inan appropriate manner.
If he stayed and it was found that he did not do his job if fired he could lose probably half of his retirement even more if it was a serious breech.
So he did not even wait to see if he would be even investigated but resigned and locked in his 75% of his eighty thousand a year retirement.
As Quick as it happened he had to be in process or finished before his speech.
We seen what happened when a real police approached him with no cover with his weapon in this little monsters face he stuck his nose in the dirt.
I'm not trying to make this guy the scapegoat but there is a load of that to be wrapped around the FBI and local police who needs to be where they were at the beginning reduced unarmed and behind a desk doing lab and paper work to support the states police organizations.
Since the 1960's most of what they and the CIA seem to do is spy on Americans for the democrat and republican election committees , refuse to cooperate with each while trying to get the biggest chunk of the budget money and to bust the whistle blowers and cover up the crimes that they expose committed by our politicians.
In MOST cases the police are not present when a crime is committed so they do not, in most cases, act as “crime prevention”, other than by the later arrest of criminals so as they can be prosecuted and possibly sent to jail - taking them “off the street”.
Yes, he did a hell of a good job, let the guy leave after killing a bunch of kids and according to reports went to McDonalds for a happy meal before anyone arrested him.
I said this on another thread- like the Columbine police, he may have been following training, set up a perimeter, watch the door, wait for the shooting to stop.
The subtle narrative here is that even armed cops can’t help, only more commonsense reasonable gun registration and confiscation will work, for the children.
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