Posted on 02/17/2018 6:08:02 AM PST by Texas Fossil
But, 1 day after, this is reported:
https://twitter.com/abdbozkurt/status/964820760232685568
A day after meeting with US @StateDept Secretary Rex Tillerson for 3 hours, #Erdogan tells his supporters that #Turkey won't forget lies, open & secret betrayals
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The article I posted expresses what I feel about the future of Turkey under Erdogan. The Kemalists are still an internal threat to him, and they understand this.
The Kurds and their local Arab and Syriac allies are being unified against this common enemy. Kurds everywhere are moving closer to thinking in unity.
We shall soon see where this is really going.
“” “” The article I posted expresses what I feel about the future of Turkey under Erdogan. The Kemalists are still an internal threat to him, and they understand this.”” “”
You are kidding, yes? What kemalists? If you want to understand a modern day kemalists’ stand on Islam just look and Repuicans’ stand on political correctness.
That’s the same thing.
Look, Kemalists are not much better than Erdgoan. They from the beginning practiced massacre, genocide and ethnic cleansing.
But they are not Islamists. They don’t want to take Turkey back to 700.
No better or not is not a critical point. They are gutless and nowhere to be seen.
The Turks ought to behave better, in a region where among all the peoples on earth there, they, the Turks, are more newcomers than everyone else - later than the Arabs, the Syrians, the Greeks, other long time peoples of Anatolia, the Armenians and most of all the Kurds.
Maybe that’s why they have always had to dominate by military means. They are naturally insecure as to their place in the world. The Kurds have been in the area at least as long as the Jews. The Turks? Only since about 1300 A.D.
“gutless”
I doubt that. Always before they planned well before a Coup took place. They did this many times, always succeeded.
The last one was sloppy, I don’t think the Kemalist planned it.
“” “” The last one was sloppy, I dont think the Kemalist planned it.”” “”
Do not ignore Erdogan cleaning the military and judiciary from ‘unreliable element’ for years.
Yeah, the Kemalists played real nice with the ethnic Greek population of Anatolia.
Anatolyan rednecks are currently Erdogan’s big time supporters.
Similar process in Iran — the population of the countryside are the Ayatollas’ biggest supporters.
I have to ask, what ill informed movement allowed Turkey into NATO?
Turkey needs to be erased from that equation as it is EVERYTHING antithetical to the spine of NATO.
They have been in NATO since 1952.
I don’t know the early history of their membership.
Turkey was always guilty of extreme abuse of minorities. I’m not sure it was well understood outside Turkey and it was never admitted.
I have no answer for your question.
I was aware of their admission, however the whole premise of islam is antithetical to western civilization.
Was this the beginning of recent formalized lie that islam is a “religion” and not a political movement masquerading as a religion.
Does the Hells Angels have a “religion” stature yet???
During the Cold War Turkey was a reliable ally against the USSR because they were anti-Russian...the old "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" scenario. They sent troops to Korea during the Korean War...but they also took advantage of our need for their membership in NATO to invade Cyprus in 1974 and occupy 40% of the island.
In hindsight, I would have let the Soviets have Turkey.
Thank you for your perspective. Things change over time and it is hard to sense them unless you are close to the region.
Probably the actual Turks from central Asia were a minority--just numerous enough to impose their language. I suspect that DNA studies would show that the current Turkish population is largely descended from the populations there in antiquity--Hittites, Luwians, Lydians, Phrygians, Galatians, etc., who had become Hellenized and Christianized during the Middle Ages. Until the ill-fated Greek invasion in the early 1920s there was a sizeable Greek minority.
Speros Vryonis, Jr., wrote a scholarly book entitled The Decline of Medieval Hellenism in Asia Minor and the Process of Islamization from the Eleventh to the Fifteenth Century (1971). I read it a long time ago and don't remember the details. Vryonis is a Greek-American, now 89 years old.
Vryonis also wrote a book called Mechanism of Catastrophe: The Turkish Pogrom of September 6-7, 1955, and the Destruction of the Greek Community of Istanbul (2005). The title speaks for itself.
“” “” In hindsight, I would have let the Soviets have Turkey.”” “”
The biggest mystery of all is how the Brits persuaded Stalin not to gobble Iran at the time.
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