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Keep The Filibuster, Limit The Damage Congress Does To Americans
The Revolutionary Act ^ | 01/25/18

Posted on 01/25/2018 6:45:06 AM PST by Liberty7732

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1 posted on 01/25/2018 6:45:06 AM PST by Liberty7732
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To: Liberty7732

With Trump in the White House, this is a load of crap! We have, perhaps the last opportunity to save our country, and the filibuster is a detriment to that effort. Besides, when and if the RATs take charge again, it’s gone anyway, so we should make the first move with the hope that the legislative process can undo what the RATs have done to such and extent that it will take them decades to “put things back” should they ever get the chance.


2 posted on 01/25/2018 6:48:12 AM PST by vette6387
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Keep the filibuster. Just require the senators to actually do a filibuster.


3 posted on 01/25/2018 6:49:05 AM PST by dsrtsage (For Leftists, World History starts every day at breakfast)
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To: Liberty7732

“Gridlock is the greatest protection to our personal liberties.” - Judge Clarence Thomas

GRIDLOCK is not the same as SEDITION. America is in the midst of a COUP.


4 posted on 01/25/2018 6:49:49 AM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord. Psalm 33:12")
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To: vette6387

And if Rs lose the Senate (which they will eventually) then we’ve set the table for activist progressive giveaways which become impossible to undo, even with a majority.

Personally, I just don’t trust Congress. So the more they’re limited, the less trouble they can do.

Trump is doing great with his pen and appointments.


5 posted on 01/25/2018 6:52:36 AM PST by Liberty7732
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To: Liberty7732

FACT - If/When/God Forbid Chuck Schemer becomes Majority Leader the filibuster will be eliminated.

FACT - Chuck Schumer pushed Harry Reid to eliminate filibuster on Judicial picks

Republicans might as well take advantage while they can.


6 posted on 01/25/2018 6:52:46 AM PST by LeonardFMason (426)
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To: Liberty7732

Stupid, misleading article.

There is no filibuster. A real filibuster requires the senator to speak till he drops. Ask Jimmy Stewart.

Modern filibuster means just one stupid senator (a redundancy) can just threaten a filibuster, and the Republicans all cower and say ok, we’ll quit.

The democrats have perfected this, and the Stop-Trump forces thwart the will of the people.

Kill the filibuster. it’s 51 votes. If Mc Connell doesn’t do it now, Schumer will certainly do it next January.


7 posted on 01/25/2018 6:53:49 AM PST by oldbill
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To: dsrtsage

Been saying this for years. Ridiculous that they can just claim or threaten a filibuster and it counts. Make them stand there 24 hours/day


8 posted on 01/25/2018 6:54:06 AM PST by Liberty7732
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To: Liberty7732

Add me to the folks that would require an ACTUAL filibuster. Not a “virtual” one.


9 posted on 01/25/2018 6:57:14 AM PST by jdsteel (Give me freedom not more government)
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To: Liberty7732

Two easy answers to the author : (1) Keeping the filìbuster won’t protect us because only people like him will observe it. (2) We’ll never get back to small government if the Democrats can block us when we are in power.


10 posted on 01/25/2018 6:58:29 AM PST by Socon-Econ
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To: Liberty7732

Back in Obama’s second term Senate Dems ended the filibuster for Federal judges and administration and agency employees.

At that time they were sure that a Republicans would not win the WH in their lifetimes.

Demographics made it impossible for a Republican to win the WH so they had no risk that Senate Republicans would use it to get their appointees through on 50 Senators, so they were sure.

Bad gamble for them.

Regardless there are not near 50 votes in a Senate to end it for laws so its a moot point.


11 posted on 01/25/2018 7:02:16 AM PST by sickoflibs (Message to Trump: Your buddy Linda (Lindsey) Graham stabbed you in the back!)
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To: Liberty7732

Remove the 17th!!!!!

The State legislatures should have the right to determine their Senators. The people get to determine their representatives, the Legislature the Senate. The Founders knew what they were doing!!


12 posted on 01/25/2018 7:06:42 AM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said theoal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Liberty7732

I disagree. It’s not easy for one party to get control of both houses and the White House. If the people give them that power they should have a chance to enact their agenda, for better or worse. Once upon a time the opposition party would accept that the winner had a mandate and cooperate. Reagan got his tax cuts through without Republicans controlling the house because people agreed with that premise. Those days are over, at least for the Democrats. The pubs can’t continue to play by the old rules when the Democrats will do anything to obstruct and will ditch the filibuster if the situation is reversed.


13 posted on 01/25/2018 7:11:09 AM PST by Hugin (Conservatism without Nationalism is a fraud.)
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To: vette6387

Get rid of the filibuster right now. If the RATs get in again they will do it first thing.

Time is running out.


14 posted on 01/25/2018 7:11:37 AM PST by dforest (Never let a Muslim cut your hair.)
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To: Liberty7732

I may agree except IT’S ALREADY GONE. The next time Ds are in majority, the minority Rs will not be allowed to use it. By keeping it now, Rs are just screwing themselves (and us) and delaying the date when it is officially declared dead.

Reid fully ended the ideal that the minority should have a say - even if only in limited cases. Without both parties trying to live up to that ideal it’s stupid for one party to accept the filibuster.

Reid didn’t “partially remove” the filibuster because he thought it should be kept. He removed it in limited cases because he only NEEDED to remove it in limited cases at the time. And he hoped Rs would not take it the next step if they became majority (and he seems to have been right). But he fully intended for Ds to go the next step whenever they wanted.

It’s as dead as the concept of senators representing states. They can’t bring back the filibuster any more than I can get rid of the 17th amendment. And small-government conservatives are doubly screwed until they figure that out.


15 posted on 01/25/2018 7:13:23 AM PST by LostPassword
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To: Liberty7732

The problem is not the filibuster, the problem is the 17th Amendment and the liberals designed it to cause the problems we have today.


16 posted on 01/25/2018 7:42:49 AM PST by Colo9250 (Why are Andy, Peter and Lisa still employed at the FBI?)
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To: Liberty7732
If we were currently a limited government country then I would agree, let's keep the filibuster. The filibuster would limit change.

BUT, we have grown to be a big government country. We need changes to bring us back to a limited sized government. If we retain the filibuster then I believe the change that we need would be impossible.

Removing the filibuster is our best chance to return to limited government.

17 posted on 01/25/2018 8:07:59 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: Liberty7732; bitt; LucyT; GregNH
(From the article):" The answer, clearly, is no — unless we want even more centralization of controlling authority."

We have already seen an unresponsive central government which listens to the voice of big money contributors, rather than the voice of the citizenry.

18 posted on 01/25/2018 8:14:43 AM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: dsrtsage
Keep the filibuster. Just require the senators to actually do a filibuster.

This.

19 posted on 01/25/2018 8:34:01 AM PST by zeugma
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To: Liberty7732

I humbly disagree.

EVERYTHING should come to a floor vote.
Make every one of the bastards take an on-the-record, yea or nay vote on EVERYTHING.

Than let the voters decide.


20 posted on 01/25/2018 8:35:58 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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