Posted on 01/12/2018 8:32:33 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
I hope this works out for our side. I’m just always very suspect of any co-operation with the French. Historically, since WWII............it’s been hit and miss.
Trump and Mattis would have had to approve this so I will go with their judgment.
Looks like a Gannet and two others I can’t identify.
Well, it will at least give the French a chance to see what a real aircraft carrier looks like, up close.
Good call on the Fairey, I’m stumped on the other two, it’s teasing around the back of my brain.
The picture of all the planes on the Ark Royal looks like a big cluster ——. Our carriers never look that cluttered because they’re bigger.
Best to have as little to do with the French as possible.
Blackburn Buccaneer they be.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackburn_Buccaneer
Blackburn Buccaneers.
Aye Matie, arrrr...
I also see RN Phantoms and Buccaneers. There were some big differences between the RN Phantoms and USN Phantoms. The RN Phantoms had larger intakes due to the Rolls Royce Spey engines (insisting on UK content), and a longer nose gear. The latter was to get a larger angle of attack due to the shorter catapults. RN carriers tended to be very cramped. A holdover from their design philosophy from early WW2, they had armored flight decks, as well as the hangar being an armored box. Thus reliance on centerline elevators that were quite small (did the RN ever implement deck edge elevators?), and any angled deck tended to be quite shallow, with maybe the exception of the HMS Victorious. The USN Essex class IMHO appeared more capable (similar size to the Ark Royal and Eagle CATOBARs). I just wonder how they cross decked the Intruders, although the Buccaneers were similar size and weight. The Buccaneers however did have some kind of boundary layer bleed on the wing, or something like that, optimizing for lower speed takeoff and landing. I know I’m going to get flamed on this one.
Correction - blown flaps not boundary layer.
When we were manning the fuel pits, a RN Buccaneer came down the taxiway, and it came to a complete stop, and smoke started pouring out of the thing. Back the canopy went, and both crewmen jumped out and ran about 30 yards away on the grass!
The trucks came over and put out the fire, so I don't think there was any long term damage, but there was something comical about they way they jumped out and ran! I am sure I would have too, in their shoes...it just looked funny!
Awesome post, that is so cool..!!
I can imagine that it looked funny.
Now the Royal Navy can’t get enough people to man the few ships they have.
McDonnell F-4K Phantom
The Phantoms I knew, I was so focused on the two Buccaneers in the foreground, I totally missed the ones sternward!
The Phantoms used the a variant of the same engine we had in our A-7E Corsairs (the Rolls Royce-Detroit Diesel Allison variant TF-41) they had two of them, and also had afterburners on them. They were thermally limited engines due to the engine’s propensity for developing turbine blade cracks due to high temperatures, so when you put a new engine in, you had to set a thermal governor that would limit how high the temp could go,and as a result, limited the power output.
It was unusual. Our previous models had used the TF-30 (same as the Tomcat) but they weren’t as powerful as the TF-41.
On the Phantom, those two TF-41 variants, the Spey engines sure as hell did not smoke as much as the J-79s our Phantoms had, and weren’t as loud either, and didn’t gulp fuel the same way. I think the J-79 significantly had more thrust...you don’t get something for nothing!
You should not crowd the deck like that.
The Japanese may attack. They learned at Midway : )
Lol, so their carrier DeGaulle needed a tow boat again? The last time they went out to sea their propeller fell off!
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